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[–] [email protected] 154 points 3 months ago (7 children)

People who sat out on voting for Kamela over the Biden handling of Gaza voted for this.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They never gave a shit about Palestine. It was just another example of "The Issue" for them to base their entire personality around to pose online.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (22 children)

I'm married to a Palestinian and so I'm hyper-aware about lip service, and I think you're right. My perception is that they are weak-minded people too naive or stupid to realize they've been conned into sitting out the election by a right-wing psyop. And they also have this mentality that a candidate has to be perfect in every way (by their standards) or they won't sully their purity by voting for them. They're the same sort of people who shop at Whole Foods because anything less than perfect should never pass their lips, and don't notice or care that it's just funnelling their money to Bezos.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

They're getting exactly what they voted for, but probably not what they wanted. But at least bLuE mAgA lost right guys?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Keep blaming and crying about the voters neoliberal corporate-whorism failed to motivate!

It's worked out well for you so far...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If only more people voted for the Democrats, Americans would have free health care, better education, and they wouldn't be owned by corporations. If only enough people voted for the Democrats, Americans would be living in a much better place. Just like when Democrats where in power the last times, it was utopia. Obama even closed Guantanamo!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You are confusing in power with absolute power. It's a very common issue with dishonest people.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

If only enough people voted for the Democrats, Americans would be living in a much better place.

I mean, literally, yes. Most of the EOs that Trump has signed won't be felt by the majority but trans kids are about to be bullied and committing suicide in much greater numbers, Latino Americans are going to have their families torn apart or be deported along with their family, careers are about to be ended for thousands, cancer research is getting paused, medications are going to get more expensive, progress on carbon reduction is grinding to a halt and probably reversing, and Federal aid is going to be tied to how much Presidential ass you're willing to kiss. And this is with barely any legislation being passed! It would have been 10x better keeping the status quo!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Biden was just fueling the genocide and would have continued to do so for all eternity, while having Blinken pay some lip service.

Pretending like Biden or Harris would have done anything different is laughable. Also they gave Trump the argument to ethnically cleanse Gaza based on the destruction that was done with American weapons consistently given to Israel to do exactly that. The end goal for Biden and Harris was equally to extend the Israeli control as a means to extend the US empire.

Now the Democrats might be inclined to change their position and get rid of the Zionist elites that are poisoning the party since decades. Or they just go around claiming how their genocide was a better final solution than Trumps ethnic cleansing, emphasizing again, that human lifes of people outside the US are worthless to both sides of the empires political coin.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 months ago (23 children)

As usual, dead silence from the “Democrats bad, Genocide Joe” crowd.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Time to face the facts: Those people just wanted Trump to win.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That’s definitely the point.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not silence, just more bullshit unfortunately. I’ve seen them continue to defend their position.

Edit: In this post!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

It's OK, they wanted this apparently.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Silence, because we all told you Biden's plan was exactly the same?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Silence, because we all told you Biden's plan was exactly the same?

Then we should do the math.

If “both sides” are the same on this issue, we cast aside those factors because they cancel out. That means you and yours actively sought the degradation of democracy, rolling back environmental protections, authoritarianism, fascism, a active and open kleptocracy, removal of rights for lgbtq people, and whatever other destructive fuckery this administration does.

Sound about right? I mean, if you hate one side for being genocidal, and equally hate the other side for the same, then surely you would have had the intelligence to choose based on the remaining issues?

You did choose, by action or inaction, and it’s plainly obvious what you wanted.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Yup. if they are same on this issue, people should have had the 95 other aspects where they are different. But again to quote another Lemmy user, "You won't reason someone out of a viewpoint they've never reasoned themselves into in the first place"

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Silence, because we all told you Biden’s plan was exactly the same?

Biden's administration has been attempting to hash out a peace deal with the support of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and others.

This genocide you claim to stand against is abso-fucking-lutely going to get worse now that Trump is in office. Hiding behind 'this was always going to happen' is a shameful and cowardly stance to take and a pathetic attempt to absolve yourselves of any blame.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anyone who isn't a moron knew that would be his plan.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Predict? He literally said it, out loud, before now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, Israel was going to try to do this and the US was going to support them no matter what, voters just had a choice between furrowed brows and cheerleading

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Every single one of you who attacked Biden and dissuaded turn out for Democrats in November need to sit the fuck down.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

"Bu-bu-but how would donvict be any worse?"

[–] morphballganon 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Haven't you figured it out yet?

Those weren't actual Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

where is your evidence that things would be any different if she won? Is she, or any other democratic leader speaking out against this? They lost and they’re as silent as they were prior to the election?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago

Who could possibly have predicted he'd do such a thing?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (31 children)

I hate to say "I told you so", but there it is. Nothing is in place to stop Trump and Netenyahu from going truly scorched earth on Gaza and the West Bank now.

Time to see what a real, unmitigated genocide looks like.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Nothing was in place to stop it under Biden , either.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

If that's what you think, then stay tuned!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Clean it out with US supplied 155 mm artillery shells. To the Muslim MAGA voters, you got what you asked for...FAFO! Zero sympathy. The Orange Nero would like to do the same thing to Blue States.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Yes. The guy who intends to "clean out" the United States as well. It really smacks of a familiar thing...can't really put my finger on it though.... certainly must have happened in the past hundred years or so...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What's the opposite of a humanitarian?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It says it right there in the first word of the title.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

The way he can't even say who's responsible for Gaza looking like a "demolition site".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Casually saying just kill them all, wow

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