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Originally posted on https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/1iak445/stand_together_no_surrender/ by /u/JaneOfKish
Internet disinformation is making this regime seem far more popular than it is. Don’t let that bullshit dishearten you, that’s what the fascists want. The majority is not cool with this, and we can stop it.
It's hard to believe that "the majority is not cool with this", because that fucker did win the elections. The American people voted for him, how could it be that the majority doesn't want exactly what he's doing?
There was at least some fuckery involved in their win, admittedly.
Gerrymandering and them nullifying voter registrations definitely had a pronounced impact.
Indeed. And I was referring to Trump's weird rambling that "Elon Musk knows 'those vote counting computers'". There is also this report pointing to vote manipulation in Clark County, NV : https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv (and hopefully more reports to come)
I’ll note that he didn’t win a majority, just a larger majority than Harris. This win was narrower than his first one iirc, the swing state bullshit just made it seem more dramatic
None of this would've happened without the electoral college bullshit.
A plurality of the people who voted is not the same as the majority of people in the US.
Because the voting system of USA is bad at reflecting what people really want. It was designed from beginning to not be fair.
I think Proportional representation was a checkbox on some of the ballots in the USA.
It is so much better.
The options proffered were "genocide by a blue president", or "genocide by a red president." This election was incapable of recognizing a majority position of "no genocide".
The best way to get to no genocide was elected the only party that could win, and that was even thinking of ceasefires.
I mean not voting is often/in many places the most popular American presidential candidate, obviously not just because plenty are stupid or apathetic, but also because it's been made pretty hard to vote in many places.
It's more accurate to say that the majority didn't (manage to) vote against him. So the conclusion is more like the majority didn't care enough to prevent this, instead of the majority wanted this.
To you it might feel no different but seen from the outside it very much is different. The consequences are still bad, but your consequence shouldn't be resignation, Americas citizens failed themselves sure but they aren't overwhelmingly monsters.
With the amount of fuckery in terms of media and the whole election process in the US this is a more fair assesment.
Because unfortunately we're a selfish country. That's just how it is...
Regime? My god you people are insane, and the actual proof you've never lived inside an actual regime is this type of comments.
Try to even say something like this on an actual regime, and prepare your ass to be tortured non stop for months.
Can't find you? Don't worry, your family will work for that as well. No family? Friends and acquaintances will do in a pinch.
Citizens in a real regime are afraid to even talk in public forums because they know there are intelligence agents running spy operations on them .
You people cheapen the torture and barbarism that real people suffer daily just to feel self righteous in your fake posturing and virtue signaling.
Absolutely disgusting
Are you really gate-keeping fascism?
Just because we can see this coming, and it's not terrible yet doesn't mean it's not terrible.
The kind of person you are calling 'disgusting' is empathetic to all forms of oppression and not just focused on the US local landscape -- we just see it happening here right now and are calling it out. We have also been calling it out when it occurs elsewhere.
Doing anything to limit or inhibit the spread of information about what is occurring is more disgusting than being fascist to begin with. Fuck off.
That is their goal and we are trying to avoid getting there. Democracy is fragile and what you've described is a very likely possibility that we must stop.
Dude shut up you fucking dork.
BRING BACK LUIGI!!! 😚👌
Bring back Ryan Routh
That’s some cool graphic design there.
*Spray paint stencil on tesla's
You mean swasticars?
You are aware that very many Tesla drivers bought their cars before Elon went full-retard.
I’m on your side, but I’m not selling my car.
I do hope you’ll notice the anti-nazi sticker on it.
They wont. Its irrational but a large group views your car as a drivable hate symbol. Irrationality is kind of how strong emotions work. (Kind of like how truck bois would coal roll and slash the tires of prius owners)
Yeah but in total war, you take the fight to the enemy anywhere you find them.
I’m not your enemy. Tesla drivers are not your enemy. Look for actual signals, not false signals.
By the logic you’re stating, all Ford drivers should be harassed too, because Henry Ford did business with Nazi Germany. Toyota drivers should be harassed because Toyota got their start with military trucks for the Japanese Imperial Army during World War II. By that reasoning, we’d have to scrutinize nearly every major corporation for their historical ties.
If we’re going to address systemic issues, let’s focus on meaningful actions and accountability rather than blanket blame or misdirected hostility.
ok do it fuck mega corps
Please do. Show us how it’s done. Build your own car. Deploy your own technology and access it on your own smartphone/computer that definitely doesn’t have Apple, Samsung, Qualcomm, TSMC (and many others) designed and built parts. Grow your own wheat and capture and store your own solar energy on batteries that you’ve mined and refined the minerals yourself. Build your own home.
Now do all of that without a single mega-corp product. Rules are rules; nope you can’t even buy a hammer if it was produced or sold by a megacorp.
Turns out that even cyberpunks need corpo shit too. But good luck on your violent anti-corp rebellion—you’re going to need it.
why would I need a car or batteries or some lame do nothing worth nothing app? you don't need all this tech as bad as you think you do. stop using your consoomer corporate slave brain
There was a photo of a Tesla in Vienna, Austria with a swastika sprayed on the hood. It's started.
Just don't forget the cameras :)
The big sides of beer cases are lightweight, easy to conceal, and perfect for this. If you have a jacket with a liner, you can cut a thin line it with a razor knife and nobody will find your stencils.
Excellent plan!
aren't they just symptoms of a manipulated electorate done by financial and political elites aligned with specifically right leanings (Rupert murdoch et al)?
the people that rise to the top of a shit system are indeed pieces of shit but we neglect the 70million idiots that will defend them because fucking Jesus and guns.
No one voted for him. Why defend him?
Once Trump dies in his sleep from medical, where’s this guy going to be? Vance is Theil owned. Theil and musk do not get along, going way back.
I have a feeling they all mostly put up with each other but can't stand the other one bit. I can't remember how many times some petty news broke about their squabbles only for them to call each other the greatest of friends when it's convenient. Like Ramaswampy saying all this shit behind Trump's back, getting on his good side only to get his face eaten later. And Greene accusing Boebert of stealing her thunder. Good god, they all sound like toddlers.
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