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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 154 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Could you guys also scrap the ADL? They seem to have jumped the shark in defense of his nazi salute.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They just need to sever the ADL’s ties to Israel. It’s hard for me to believe it’s a NY organization when they parrot Netanyahu’s words and sound nothing like the voices of every Jewish New Yorker I’ve met.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're just a mouthpiece of the likud party and have been for a while now.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Us guys" do not universally support the ADL.

Just like we do not universally support Israel.

Can you guys stop deciding what every Jew supports? I'm getting really fucking tired of both telling people that you're wrong and being told I'm the wrong one back because of my genetics.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You may be a leader and you may be Jewish, but I interpreted that comment to specifically mean the people in power who maintain this connection. That is, “you guys” sounds like an appeal to the Jewish leaders referenced in the article, the US leaders that support the ADL, or both.

I might be wrong, I don’t know OP or what they truly believe. If there is context I’m missing that changes the message, I will stand corrected.

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Notice how the state of Israel has nothing to say about this?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 92 points 2 months ago (36 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Holy shit. The Zionist part of the organisation has completely eaten the anti-hate part.

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[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's because Isreal has been slowly co-opted by xenophobic right wing extramists under the guise of survival.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

Always has been. Pre WW2 socialist Jewish currents pretty much all unanimously opposed Zionism.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 92 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I know a good boycott to the oligarchs

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact: "petit ami / petite amie" means "boyfriend / girlfriend"

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find it very on brand for these guys to simultaneously piss off Jewish people and Palestinians within just a couple weeks.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the thing with israel is that it's an anti-semitic state. zionism is an anti-semitic stance. also palestinians are also semitic. it's just… all so dumb

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

And evangelicals want all the Jews in the world forcibly exiled to Israel because they think that's the only way Jesus will return.

And those motherfuckers better have zip ties and guns if they expect me to put a molecule of my body across the Israeli border.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 months ago

So, a real group of Jewish Leaders rather than a Zionist sockpuppet like the ADL.

[–] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nazi salutes. He did it twice.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Hey, at least they called it "Nazi" and not something wishy-washy like "awkward", "problematic", or "Elon Musk salute".

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

White nationalists are just the same as white supremacists. If there are Jewish people who think Christian Nationalism will protect them, they're forgetting that Nazis were and are very Christian.

Authoritarian leaders turn on their own people and supporters all the time, this has been proven time and again in history. Whatever America is now though, there is still hope in the judiciary and the constitution.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The salute is just a symbol of much larger antisemitic moves by Elon. It's not hard to find neo Nazis posting swastikas and the like on X and many Jewish users have indicated that reporting those images goes nowhere despite them being specifically enumerated as banned in the official terms of use. There's plenty of evidence out there that Elon is in fact a far right racist if not outright Nazi.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

A rich white guy from South Africa might be a nazi? I hardly believe it!

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It would mean more if Israel weren't actively genociding Palestinians.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (29 children)

Oh look, someone who thinks that "Jew" and "Israeli" are synonyms.

As always, no matter where I live, no matter how much I say I hate Israel, I will always be a foreigner and a Zionist.

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[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 24 points 2 months ago (17 children)

What does that have to do with this?

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 13 points 2 months ago

Well they should've thought about that before the elections. It's now unwise to antagonize an all powerful dictator.

Even though his scapegoat isn't the Jewish people, I don't think it's impossible they'd still add you to the list later on.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago

They should have probably boycotted him at the polls, instead of voting for him.

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In what let's call the Jewish diaspora there is a strong thread of fascism. The fascists currently (and for some time now) are in control of the israeli government. If the israeli people were not in support of such fascism they are doing a poor job of expressing it. Globally fascism among jews is not universal, probably not even a majority though I have no hard data here. Anecdotally among the Jewish people I know there is one rabidly fascist of the kill all the Palestinians ilk, a few who claim not to support genocide but will get loud and in your face at any criticism of it and many who are disgusted by it and will openly say so. Your mileage may vary.

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