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Yep, just as neutral and useful as all the research on how cigarette is "not that bad", conducted by Marlboro and friends
this post was submitted on 17 Feb 2025
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Oh man... I was about to comment satirically "this study was sponsored by coca-cola" but then I read your comment.
Sometimes it seems like there is no more need for satire, because reality has become a joke itself.
The entire basis for this is the assumption that goods are being transported using fossil fuels. If we transport the goods using electric trucks suddenly plastic starts to look much, much worse than paper or even glass.
Aluminum is much better all around so I'm not sure why it's lumped into everything else. It's basically infinitely recyclable and you don't have to use natural gas or propane to heat it up to the melting point for forming/extrusion. There's basically an infinite amount of ways to heat things up; even to really high temperatures.
There are complexities when dealing with aluminum. Main one being oxygen.
You don't want aluminum oxide, you want pure aluminum. Just heating the stuff up on its own will not give you pure aluminum. You have to eliminate oxygen from the equation.
Edit: Any wonder why aluminum welders have fat bank accounts?
The entire basis for this is the assumption that goods are being transported using fossil fuels.
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Alu is very expensive to produce due to how much processing it takes—which also includes requiring a ton of energy and water, IIRC.
Until you start bringing up the lithium mining receipts.
And oil mining is more ethical?
Oil mining is a more urgent issue, yes, but polluting the land with exhausted lithium mines is not the way to divest.
The thing with lithium is, that it can be recycled. Can't say that about coal (etc). Lithium mining is absolute trash, but I hope that we can improve on this.
I understand why it's considered better, I'm merely elucidating the importance of recognizing that it's a stop gap measure.
Yes, because I prefer plastic over glass in my testicles..
I prefer only testicles in my testicles.
To that end, I propose a new packaging system!
TDS - Testicle Distribution System
Bulllllllshit.
Eat plastic you will live longer
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