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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 month ago (2 children)

More like bye-bit, am I right??

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Angry upvote you horrible genius.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They'll just roll back the blockchain. Ethereum is a centrally controlled cryptocurrency, though its fans claim otherwise. It's been rolled back before.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

This is either a person who hasn't followed ETH since 2016 or is intentionally spreading misinformation.

It HAS been rolled back once, when the blockchain was in its infancy. But to say that it is still "centrally controlled" suggests having no idea what has happened in the 9 years since.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I have no crypto of any kind. It's the wild west with no savings insurance, so once it's gone, it's gone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends which exchange you're using.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anybody who keeps their money on an exchange any longer than necessary is just asking for trouble. An exchange is like a public toilet. You get in, you shit, and you get the fuck out. You don't hang around in a public toilet.

Self custody or GTFO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not what the question was about.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There was no question. There was a statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Alright, that's not what the statement was about.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (8 children)

How does one get ones hands on a cold wallet?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My speculations:

  • "insecure from the start" - as in , the wallet was never that "cold"

  • with that amount of money, it's easy to imagine an "insider threat"

  • the hackers could have gotten lucky and struck right when the company was doing legitimate operations on the wallet

  • but probably it's a towering mountain of incompetence, composed of the elements above and more

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Right next to their iq

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a common misconception that a "cold wallet" is offline. It's still on the blockchain like any other wallet, it's just the keys that aren't on any network-connected computer.

It appears that in this case hackers managed to trick Bybit employees into entering the keys into a fake UI that gave the hackers access to them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

That’s room temperature wallet. It was used while claiming asset unused.

It is not cold storage anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Tricked or “tricked”.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

And this is the first time I have heard the word "musked" in this context.....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

I have no idea. I guess they'll release a lot more info regarding this in the next few days.

And this is the first time I have heard the word “musked” in this context…

I think his English isn't good looking at the rest of the message. Might be "masked" instead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I don't quite understand is how there is 1.5 billion in a single wallet. Or how are these things structured?

This article puts their total assets under management at $15.7b, which are held in different cryptocurrencies with ethereum at just above $5b.

So I am wondering how they have more than 1/6 of their Ethereum in a single wallet or were these multiple that were connected and got compromised through the same vulnerability? How expensive is it to have more individual wallets? Would it not be feasible to have it split in something like $100m chunks? Or any other more moderate size.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Making more wallets would cost nothing more than a few hundred bytes of storage each for the keys. I have no idea why they wouldn't have split their funds into evenly sized wallets of, say, $1M each.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I recommend gloves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Well, either it wasn't as offline as they all thought, or someone pulled off an epic inside job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Social engineering, they convinced multiple key holders to sign a transaction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The weakest part of any secure system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

With steely determination

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

The money is not gone, is just that someone else has it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The money of the future ladies and gentlemen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even regular banks can be hacked, this isn't just a crypto issue. Same group that hacked byebit also is responsible for the below:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Bank_robbery

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

how is $1.5 billion in worth calculated because no way bitcoin tokens are worth more than $20.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not sure I understand the question... Do you think the market value of these coins is made up (as in not directly related to demand), and you can't actually go onto an exchange and trade it for actual USD? Because of course you can.

1 Bitcoin (not a token) is currently worth over $95,000

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You wanted to know how it's calculated.

That was the supposed amount of ETH that was stolen. 1 ETH is currently around $2800. The value it has is because people are buying ETH for that price. So you take $2800 and multiply it by 400000. Carry the 5, etc. That's $1 120 000 000.

There was some other stuff stolen too I think. I haven't really looked into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh it I know! I as just joking that I still didn't get it it was appreciated by my though thank you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That someone can just make off with that amount of digital "currency" sure inspires trust in that system, so the $2800 price tag might be a bit optimistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Well it does show that you really do own your own coins. You have to own something before you can lose it.

With government created currencies this is not really the case, banks can stop any transactions and even close your account, the government can freeze it if they desire, and all that kind of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They're worth what you can sell them for. The US dollars they're priced in don't exactly inspire confidence these days, either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously, who calls their online banking type site bye bit?

Having said that, I'll just go ahead and assume their security was barely existent, as per usual. I wonder if their CTO was actually s music teacher too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This is the same hacker group that performed the Bangladesh Bank robbery, that attack the almost stole 1 billion, the only reason they got flagged was a typo. They did manage to steal 81 million though. Byebit does seem to have bad security though compared to Bangladesh bank.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Bank_robbery

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I gotta get in on this hacking gig. Anyone know if any hacker groups are hiring?

/s for CSIS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago