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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 months ago (2 children)

More like bye-bit, am I right??

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Angry upvote you horrible genius.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They'll just roll back the blockchain. Ethereum is a centrally controlled cryptocurrency, though its fans claim otherwise. It's been rolled back before.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago

This is either a person who hasn't followed ETH since 2016 or is intentionally spreading misinformation.

It HAS been rolled back once, when the blockchain was in its infancy. But to say that it is still "centrally controlled" suggests having no idea what has happened in the 9 years since.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I have no crypto of any kind. It's the wild west with no savings insurance, so once it's gone, it's gone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends which exchange you're using.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anybody who keeps their money on an exchange any longer than necessary is just asking for trouble. An exchange is like a public toilet. You get in, you shit, and you get the fuck out. You don't hang around in a public toilet.

Self custody or GTFO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not what the question was about.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was no question. There was a statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Alright, that's not what the statement was about.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (8 children)

How does one get ones hands on a cold wallet?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My speculations:

  • "insecure from the start" - as in , the wallet was never that "cold"

  • with that amount of money, it's easy to imagine an "insider threat"

  • the hackers could have gotten lucky and struck right when the company was doing legitimate operations on the wallet

  • but probably it's a towering mountain of incompetence, composed of the elements above and more

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Right next to their iq

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's a common misconception that a "cold wallet" is offline. It's still on the blockchain like any other wallet, it's just the keys that aren't on any network-connected computer.

It appears that in this case hackers managed to trick Bybit employees into entering the keys into a fake UI that gave the hackers access to them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

That’s room temperature wallet. It was used while claiming asset unused.

It is not cold storage anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Tricked or “tricked”.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

And this is the first time I have heard the word "musked" in this context.....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Do I understand this correctly, then, that this was some sort of MITM attack where valid requests to the multisig parties were replaced by malicious code while still appearing to be valid to the signers? That must be an inside job.

I have no idea. I guess they'll release a lot more info regarding this in the next few days.

And this is the first time I have heard the word “musked” in this context…

I think his English isn't good looking at the rest of the message. Might be "masked" instead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What I don't quite understand is how there is 1.5 billion in a single wallet. Or how are these things structured?

This article puts their total assets under management at $15.7b, which are held in different cryptocurrencies with ethereum at just above $5b.

So I am wondering how they have more than 1/6 of their Ethereum in a single wallet or were these multiple that were connected and got compromised through the same vulnerability? How expensive is it to have more individual wallets? Would it not be feasible to have it split in something like $100m chunks? Or any other more moderate size.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Making more wallets would cost nothing more than a few hundred bytes of storage each for the keys. I have no idea why they wouldn't have split their funds into evenly sized wallets of, say, $1M each.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I recommend gloves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Well, either it wasn't as offline as they all thought, or someone pulled off an epic inside job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Social engineering, they convinced multiple key holders to sign a transaction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The weakest part of any secure system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

With steely determination

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

The money is not gone, is just that someone else has it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The money of the future ladies and gentlemen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Even regular banks can be hacked, this isn't just a crypto issue. Same group that hacked byebit also is responsible for the below:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Bank_robbery

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

how is $1.5 billion in worth calculated because no way bitcoin tokens are worth more than $20.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not sure I understand the question... Do you think the market value of these coins is made up (as in not directly related to demand), and you can't actually go onto an exchange and trade it for actual USD? Because of course you can.

1 Bitcoin (not a token) is currently worth over $95,000

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You wanted to know how it's calculated.

That was the supposed amount of ETH that was stolen. 1 ETH is currently around $2800. The value it has is because people are buying ETH for that price. So you take $2800 and multiply it by 400000. Carry the 5, etc. That's $1 120 000 000.

There was some other stuff stolen too I think. I haven't really looked into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Oh it I know! I as just joking that I still didn't get it it was appreciated by my though thank you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That someone can just make off with that amount of digital "currency" sure inspires trust in that system, so the $2800 price tag might be a bit optimistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well it does show that you really do own your own coins. You have to own something before you can lose it.

With government created currencies this is not really the case, banks can stop any transactions and even close your account, the government can freeze it if they desire, and all that kind of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

They're worth what you can sell them for. The US dollars they're priced in don't exactly inspire confidence these days, either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, who calls their online banking type site bye bit?

Having said that, I'll just go ahead and assume their security was barely existent, as per usual. I wonder if their CTO was actually s music teacher too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

This is the same hacker group that performed the Bangladesh Bank robbery, that attack the almost stole 1 billion, the only reason they got flagged was a typo. They did manage to steal 81 million though. Byebit does seem to have bad security though compared to Bangladesh bank.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Bank_robbery

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I gotta get in on this hacking gig. Anyone know if any hacker groups are hiring?

/s for CSIS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago