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[–] ugjka@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

bring back 00's google search that shit was smarter than any of these ais

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 24 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Google Now and Google Inbox did stuff that’s beyond what can be achieved in AI in practice now. Both shut down due to being unprofitable XD

[–] junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 weeks ago

Aw I miss Google inbox 😢 time to put a flower on the google graveyard 🪦😋

[–] Hukapapa@lemm.ee 3 points 4 weeks ago

Have you tried one of the google search alternatives?

  • kagi
  • Quant
  • Ecosia
  • duckduckgo

Of course they can not compensate for the shithole the whole internet has become

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The money in AI is going to be the wages of the people it replaces. Those tech billionaires call it a revolution because getting labor without wages is the promised land for cunt billionaires.

The AI revolution is here because that's what the owners want. If you think they'll wait until the AI is as good as humans to replace humans I'll point out that self-checkout already exists.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 32 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Thing is, it doesn't replace workers. And it won't for the foreseeable future. Even Microsoft itself had to admit that their studies show AI assisted coding to be bad and making developers worse.

There is hardly any market where these systems can reasonably compete with exploited humans. It's just that the tech bros have nothing left to invest in. The same idiots that pushed crypto, NFTs and the Metaverse are now pushing for AI. There is hardly any innovation anymore, so the only ways to make line go up are rent seeking and investing in bubbles in the desperate attempt, that something might stick.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It seems like we have a problem where there's too much money at the top of society that's trying to chase returns that can't exist because there's enough money at the bottom to buy products, so it just gets invested in bad ways. This will probably continue until they waste enough for their own money on bullshit that they no longer have it

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 6 points 4 weeks ago

You're right in your analysis, but the prediction is wrong, I'm afraid.

The next "big thing" is taking over the government. See Musk and his gang. He's not alone and the US isn't the only country this is happening in. Corporations inject themselves into each and every transaction, every aspect of life and politics. That way they have essentially infinite money at their hands.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Eventually the only way rich people can get richer is by stealing from other rich people because the economy is so heavily weighted toward the rich that there's just no money to extract from the poor. I think that's related to what we're seeing here .. And probably everywhere else as well.

[–] polographer@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not actually to discredit you, but I really would love to send some studies to some people I work; by any chance do you have the links to Microsoft studies

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/ai-deteriorates-your-brain-according-to-microsoft-study/ar-AA1yQnGA

Searching for AI and Microsoft is an absolute shit show, btw. There was also a study about the code quality, but I can't find it among all the marketing bullshit.

Edit: just found another one https://futurism.com/openai-researchers-coding-fail

[–] polographer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you !!!

[–] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Translators and junior level devs.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Translation on a level an AI could do is already pretty cheap, nobody's gonna throw a nuanced legal document at an AI and rely on it.

Junior devs are much smarter than any current AI, because they know what they want to achieve and why. There's a reason why all the demos are toy examples. Actual code is messy and full of quirks because of weird requirements.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Junior devs are much smarter than any current AI, because they know what they want to achieve and why

Oh sweet summer child

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

See, acting like a condescending asshole without any substance is a task that AI may never take from us.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you a junior developer by any chance?

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

That's exactly what I mean. Condescending, arrogant, and confidently incorrect.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh my. You completely missed the point.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I fully understand your point, I just think it's shit, and since your first reaction to being challenged is a shitty attempt at belittling, I have to assume you're about as valuable as your point.

Why would I trust the judgement of someone who can't even fathom the concept of "someone else might have a valid point"?

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You sound more and more immature, so likelihood of you being a junior (and not a good one) is increasing

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

I see. We're at full blown ad hominem and removed even the pretense of argumentative value.

That's of course a sure sign of maturity.

Maybe all the juniors around you suck, because the good ones don't need to waste their time with arrogant, abrasive coworkers.

[–] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

My case in point. Instead of farming out translation jobs for 12 languages in WPML to people, we now auto translate all content via AI. That’s jobs lost. Complicated legal docs is an edge case in the content world.

Cursor is agent mode with Claude 3.7 absolutely writes well enough after indexing our codebase to mean less junior devs. I’m sorry that doesn’t fit into your narrative.

That’s not to say the world isn’t full of AI slop, and there aren’t huge issues around LLMs, But there are some solid use cases for this technology in replacing meat bags.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

I tried cursor, claude, copilot. They're not good.

Like, they can sometimes generate 10 lines of perfectly reasonable code, but they constantly completely misunderstand my intention or simply produce garbage. But the garbage looks just good enough, that you actually have to read and understand it, which slows me down.

Maybe we're operating in completely different worlds, but even for the junior devs in my company, typing speed was never an issue. I'm sure, within a few years LLMs can generate much better code, but I don't see widespread unemployment. They need way too much babysitting and result in worse code.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 weeks ago

The big problem here is that it's simply not reliable enough to replace a worker because you have to have the AI running unsupervised to actually replace anyone and it can't be done with the current technology and something that can actually replace workers is not coming in the next 5 years or so and I'm being generous.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

“[Generative AI] is the leaded gasoline of tech, where the boost to engine performance didn’t outweigh the horrific health impacts it inflicted.”

I love Ed so much.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

OpenAI loses money on every single paying customer, just like with its free users. Increasing paid subscribers also, somehow, increases OpenAI's burn rate. This is not a real company.

🔥

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

Data centers and electrical companies will be new Rockefellers

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago

so are you telling me use it for bogus shit programatically en masse until they bleed dry?

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's almost as if the "aRtIfiCiAl iNtElLiGenCe" is as big a cult as blockchain is, isn't it?

[–] balder1993@programming.dev 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

And I already have the next bubble ready: https://youtu.be/wSHmygPQukQ

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There could be an AI revolution. Send Elon and the rest of the billionaires into orbit, and they'll revolve around the Earth; they're all artificially intelligent, after all.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd prefer that revolution be a decaying orbit around the sun.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hitting the sun is surprisingly difficult

Launching into deep space knowing that they'll never enter another star system on the otherhand...

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Look launching our billionaires into deep space is no better than interstellar littering.

We should be better than that.

I bet we could launch them into Jupiter or Saturn no problems.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Even the Moon will do

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

I mean, I never said anything about space suits or capsules, so the destination could be wherever!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the thought I've had too. This stuff takes a ridiculous amount of energy and energy costs money. Ah but they're going to build big nuclear plants! But thos cost money to build and you have to pay nuclear engineers a lot of money to run them and buy the uranium... it's going to cost a lot of money.

They have to figure out how to get it to 1/1000 of the cost it currently is to make any money off of it. They'll need to cut so many corners that it probably not be much good at anything.

It'll probably just used for big "data driven" corporations to use to analyze our data to try to figure out how to sell products that barely anyone can afford.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 4 points 4 weeks ago

Foot good or for bad there are smaller, less heavy LLMs than openai.

[–] MrJgyFly@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Stellar read. So OpenAI et al keep going at the current rate, and there’s never any profit—when does it burst? How spectacular does it burst? Or will we simply have laid off a significant portion of the tech workforce and then it fizzles away?

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Those GPUs to run the AI? Still cheaper than wages! And I've met plenty of people in my life that were far dumber than a small LLM.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 11 points 4 weeks ago

No, they are not. Why do you think there's not a single AI company that's making a profit from an actual product/service? The only ones with a real business plan are nvidia and other shovel merchants.

[–] Gecko4469@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Magnificent

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there an audio version other than TTS? I know Ed does podcasts but the newsletter isn't one of them.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

His last couple of podcasts were basically his blog posts so it might be a matter of waiting a bit until it catches up.