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They're done this globally apparently. They just got rid of the provincial park option and defaults all government operated nature reserves, of any government, as "state parks".
Seems very shortsighted and with a disregard for other countries. Extremely confusing move by google.
yea, 'state park', as in 'operated by the state'
I can see why they did this, but its really stupid, especially at a time like this. i've reported half a dozen parks.
But "the state" at issue here would be Canada. A provincial park isn't a state park since we have national parks too and they're separate entities.
There was no reason to do this other than stay out of Trumps retaliation zone. It is wrong to say operated by the state when it is operated by the province.
My theory is that some asshole at google thought it was soo much to keep track of what every government globally calls their government operated parks and nature reserves, and just wanted a blanket term for it and went for "state park", with no consideration for how itd piss most countries off.
Cultural colonialism
I can't tell whats more annoying: if they did it out of malice or indifference.
Either way, the cultural homogenizing effects of mass social media is a mistake and must be fought against. Countries that primarily speak English are at the greatest threat of this. If I had a magic genie I'd wish that Canadian's native language was anything other than English so people's minds wouldn't be so easily poisoned by all the dumb bullshit media the US produces. There are genuinely people in Canada who believe they have Second Amendment rights.
I've been saying this lately, but Canada as a whole needs to emulate what Quebec is doing to protect its cultural identity. Limit American media coming into the country. Defend and cultivate our unique cultural identity at all costs.
Anyone that says Canada is not distinguished culturally from America is ignorant. I am a dual citizen who has lived in and loved both countries. Just because we are neighbours, mostly white, and speak the same language, does not make us identical. We have a different social fabric. The biggest difference is that America is a extremely individualistic society, and Canadians are a collective society. I'd call us socialist, but that word immediately turns off the listening ears of Americans as they have been programmed since McCarthy to reject socialism in all forms -- even though America has dozens of socialist programs such as social security and food stamps. To explain socialist concepts to Americans you have to use synonyms. It's like feeding a dog a pill covered in fucking peanut butter. Gotta "trick" them to help them because they just don't understand otherwise. I don't wanna trick anybody I just wanna help but stupid fucking billionaires got these idiots convinced socialist concepts are gonna destroy the country. Oh no! We made your medications cheaper and allowed you to unionize so you can get better wages and job security! So evil! I swear, if you changed "Union Dues" to "Employment Insurance" they'd be all aboard.
Anyone that says Canada is not distinguished culturally from America is ignorant.
This one struck me particularly delightfully because i've been getting into Letterkenny of all things and you very clearly do. Hell i can see that as an aussie,
Should add, that probably sounded incredibly puerile, but most of our english-speaking country media is still dominated by the uk and US (although NZ is making inroads) We don't get much Canadian stuff down here, the last big one was due south and that was very pastiche.
I love me some Letterkenny. While it is a comedy, it really does an excellent job at highlighting what being Canadian means. I really need to watch the spin off, Shoresy.
If you're interested in more media that helps you understand what being Canadian is all about, I'd recommend listening to some of the most iconic Canadians musicians of all time: Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, Gordon Lightfoot, The Tragically Hip, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, and The Band. You've almost certainly heard their songs before, but listen to some of their less popular music.
Here's some specific songs that I am fond of, and feel highlight Common Canadian Sensibilities:
These showcase a variety of genres and locations within Canada. We are a big country with such a beautiful mixture of experiences that allow for such wonderful music to be produced.
What @[email protected] said before me, but also, try out Corner Gas. It's family safe and also hilarious. It's been credited with introducing other Canadians to Saskatchewan culture since 2004.
I doubt it, its the same issue with google changing Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America recently. Its a USA thing, all other mapping systems still have it as Gulf of Mexico because they aren't bowing to trump and elon. A state and a province are not the same, provinces have less autonomy than a state.
Yep. Its not technically wrong to call them state parks, but still fuck'em that is our PROVINCIAL park.
Maybe a small cultural hill we are on right now but we give us enough of these hills and suddenly we lose any semblance of cultural uniqueness.
The problem is that for us there is a big difference between municipally run, province-run, and federally run parks. We also have private parks, privately owned but publically accessible parks, and of course, amusement parks.
Odd, I just looked up a famous national park in the UK and it's listed as 'National Park'
Canada really needs to develop its technology to get off of oppressive American tech. We need to work with other countries and develop our own tech to combat this. Absolutely insulting. Just a little βoopsieβ after over a decade of not having mislabelled parks? The stink is showing.
Open source options exist. We just need more people using OpenStreetMaps and shit.
As much as i try to update OSM with local knowledge, there's no way to keep OSM reasonably up to date without automation tools.
I'm not sure how OSM can replicate whatever tools google uses to constantly update open/close hours, new/dead businesses, bus stops with schedules, etc.
This is all just crowd sourced no? Like after I visit a place google will ask me a bunch of questions about it (eg. "Did they sell X here?").
A government funded utility that utilizes regional GIS and aerial mapping would go a long way. Google's got the upper hand on directions and traffic reporting though, so that would take more time to make effective. A lot of that is genuinely due to the number of users that exist on the platform though. I think if you tried to implement similar location data analysis for government infrastructure, people would be up in arms at the idea, despite being perfectly happy to provide the same data to Google.
It's unfortunate that Google is as prevalent a default service as they are, but it's hard to ignore how good a service they offer, and how long the development period has been to get them there.
Yeah people have to start using OpenMaps more, and OSMAnd app alternative for navigation
Yep! I recently created an account with https://www.openstreetmap.org/ and started mapping my local area. Fuck Google.
I have been using the StreetComplete app that ties to that. It is actually helpful because I noticed some bad information on the local maps that was very easy to correct in the app.
The geodata and related open source technology to edit, review, and host it is already available from openstreetmap community
Every canadian should switch to Organic Maps for national security purposes.
Feels like we're being politically raped, and it's really pissing me off.
If people are wondering why Google is simping to Trump, they have been convicted of being a monopoly and the antitrust action is now in the penalty phase.
The action started under Trump I, was vigorously pursued by Biden's Lena Kahn and the conviction secured. Now all that's left is to decide the penalty, which could range from a strongly written letter to a breakup of the company.
I'm getting Microsoft, Clinton & Bush vibes here...
Jesus fucking Christ already!
The orange butt plug and fElon need to keep their fucking hands off Canada.
Can you please go burn down the White House again?
I mean I knew Americans weren't great at geography, I didn't realize it was this bad.
I'm not seeing this at all.
Provincial Parks in BC are all still called 'xyz provincial park'.
If you explicitly search for 'state park' all the provincial ones come up, but there's nothing in any of their details mentioning 'state' in anyway.
/edit: found it.
It's subtle, but it's there.
Mount Robson Park from both search and maps:
They don't let you specify in the 'edit suggestion' what it should be; but they let you add images.
/edit submitted one for every park in BC.
Example:
I wouldn't be surprised if the orange utan asked Google to "make a mistake" on purpose, to float the idea and see what would happen.
Just checked and sure enough, nearby provincial parks are labelled 'State Park'
Man, all these tech giants keep making convenient "mistakes"....