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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Seize all Musk and Trump-owned assets.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The thing is, if Trump wants to kill Canada's role in US car manufacturing, then it will cost him the car markets in Mexico and Canada. If there's no jobs here to protect, then we'll just drop the tariffs on Chinese EVs. (This is speaking like 20 years down the road). We'll all be driving Chinese cars in that scenario. The tariffs are a total lose-lose situation, so dumb.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The benefit of a tarrif on Tesla vs opening the market to China is that we can easily undo it if there is a US coup, Trump gets medicated, gets burned, whatever. There's still the potential that this is a temporary situation, not the new reality. If we open up to a third party, we can't put the genie back in the bottle.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Electrek (the publisher of the article) seems to be a bit of a shill for Chinese EV companies, or he's getting some kind of commission. He's repeatedly promoted Chinese factories, goes on Chinese factory tours, etc... I don't know what the angle is, but it's vastly different from similar sources like Electroheads out of the UK.

That said, fuck Tesla.

Also, Canada should invest in building more micromobility devices here, like e-bikes, e-scooters, etc. The future isn't cars, and we need more affordable, accessible modes of transportation.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

$15k EV... Yes Please!!!

Nah you wouldn't want one, they're bare bones.

Okay, add $5k worth of options = $20k EV... Yes Please!!!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I have driven byd and some other Chinese brands and it's a really great experience minus the shitty touch screen UX. That being said I wouldn't trust China to run my car ever. Everything is locked down and it absolutely spies on you. I wouldn't trust my life with that to save a bit of money.

Just buying a 2nd hand ice vehicle is better for you and the environment if you're looking for a affordable option.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That would be like replacing evil with another evil. CCP are not angels.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

But they sell cheap EVs, aren't threatening to invade, and Musk's Swasticars can't compete. It's just economic pragmatism.

Use the Chinese EVs while building up local infrastructure. If Canada wants native production it won't happen overnight, but if it doesn't make a deliberate and significant push for it it's simply never going to happen at all and you'll always be importing from, and therefore dependent on, someone.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

The whole “China bad America good” concept has been put in a different light of late.

Does EU/North America fear truly China because of its expansionist policies, or simply because their skin is a different colour? It’s not like the USA is above tampering in foreign government and bugging electronics.

I say go for it, Canada. If only because it’ll push Tesla off the scoreboard without the tariffs. They can’t compete.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

"Open the door to Chinese EVs" isn't a simple solution because it has wider reaches than restricting Tesla-imports. There's a reason Germany just effected tariffs on chinese EVs, namely because they are arguing that as china subsidizes their EVs, naturally non-subsidized local companies could never be price-competitive.

I don't know how that situation is in canada, but I bet similar things have to be looked at.

I like the solution, but it's not a simple one.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Is china the only other country that makes EVs?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Good, the tariffs that is.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Lol goodbye tesla if that happens

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (7 children)

How about japanese ones? :P Better invest on our own infrastructure, we need Canadian EVs!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I AM MANIFESTING THIS PLEASE 🙏

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