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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

This nutter got it all wrong; if she wants to ignore laws with impunity, she should have gotten herself elected President.

[–] RamblingPanda 18 points 1 month ago

Or at least buy one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Just file an llc and do whatever you want. Cops don't hassle company vehicles. I see dump trucks with no plates all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or just scrape up enough to be a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Soon the US dollar will be wrecked and we can all be billionaires carting around wheelbarrows of worthless dollars.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh look at that. They can safely end a pursuit and arrest someone without pitting the car into traffic or an embankment, and without assaulting or killing the person.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still way more dangerous than just not chasing. A traffic violation is not worth putting the lives of any bystanders at risk.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Also, being very familiar with Parma Heights, this is absolutely not a device that is needed by a suburban police department.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It says it was Parma that had one. I guess they use it for any nearby community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah they don’t need it either

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one going to mention the thin blue line flag..... Hard to project an air of rationale with that background.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That was the first thing I noticed and the second thing was the neckbeard.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So ... the Moor's are a unique kind of sovereign citizen.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_sovereign_citizens

Moorish sovereign citizens, who consider Black people to constitute an elite class within American society,[3] are in a paradoxical situation of using an ideology originating in a White supremacist environment.[4]

In addition to the Moorish Science Temple doctrine that Black Americans are of Moorish descent, Moorish sovereign citizens claim legal immunity from U.S. federal, state, and local laws,[5] stemming from a mistaken belief that the Moroccan–American Treaty of Friendship (1786) grants them sovereignty.[2][6] In reality, the 1786 treaty was primarily a trade agreement.

Some also believe that Black Americans are indigenous to the United States.[7] The Moorish sovereign citizen movement has also expanded to include a few whites.[8]

They're roughly hoteps, but instead of appropriating and falsifying Egyptian history, they base it off of a made up history around the Islamic populations of Iberia and northwest Africa circa roughly 700 AD to 1300 AD, and then do sovereign citizen style 'one weird legal trick that lawyers hate' nonsense to conclude that laws do not apply to them.

Their version of history is about as legit as the Mormon conception of American history... which is to say it is crude historical fan fiction at best, horrendously offensive to actually indigenous peoples at worst.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I love watching vids of sovereign citizens explaining their rules

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I feel bad for them because they see people saying fancy words and terms in courts and they think that if they use the magic language they can do whatever they want.

There’s whole industries of people selling guides and licence plates to them too and it’s just people taking advantage of gullible people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Well said. A sober look at the lives of these people often reveals a sad truth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but didja know that if your name is in ALL CAPS that's not really legally about you the person, it's about you the corporation, and if you see a flag with fringe on it that means you are not in a real court of law and it's all very sooperdooper unlegal, brother?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

There’s whole industries of people selling guides and licence plates to them

Yeah, but what about the BONE BROTH? Tastes like Ovaltine! Whoa!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ZqD9-W1_8

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

My favorite is P. Barnes explaining to a sovcit how he isn't getting into the courtroom, and the sovcit just won't take no for an answer and ends up getting himself arrested....again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

My favorite thing about all of it is their fetishization of The Constitution.

I'm always like - you mean the Constitution of the country you say you are not a part of? What's it to you? Also, they usually worship Republicans - again, a party of a country they claim they are above...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'm not the all caps fiction!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Oh look, the police get another toy to terrorize us with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

9/10 sovereign citizens are victims. 1/10 are charlatans selling a fiction to those in dire need of a way out of legal trouble.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think more like 7/10 victims,1/10 scammers, and 2/10 people who are just obnoxious and oppositional and greedy. That's my observation from looking at them so often..

When an individual who is sort of weird and conspiratorial gets into this, I understand why, and the Moorish ones because they have sort of an organization or the American State National ones; there's a loose organization of people there being suckered as a group. But when an individual average person finds their way to this, and they have just your average middle class family, I honestly wonder where this comes from. I discovered a friend of mine on Facebook had a friend in one of these groups and told her, and she was taken aback because she was just someone who she took a Photoshop class from that she met through her business network, and she has a business of her own and seems so normal. Those are the ones I don't understand how they got there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That's pretty slick