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Like, it can't be a real person, right? Has anyone tried following the links? I'm curious how they're scamming people. It just seems like anyone getting the same message 5 times won't fall for being catfished, so I don't understand what their strategy is.

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[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 97 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The strategy is to get you onto a different platform to make instant messaging easier. They are just "advertising" on Lemmy.

Once you're on a chat platform, they will likely attempt the "Romance Baiting" (formerly "Pig Butchering") scam: make the target fall in love, then persuade them to send money for things like "travel expenses" or "family medical bills". Also involves buying crypto.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_butchering_scam

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This makes the most sense, but I still find it odd that they would send victims to the same discord server, or friendica.

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Is it always the same discord server? I got the message the other day but ignored it.

[–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is an effort to reterm away from the dehumanizing and victim blaming "Pig Butchering" to "Romance Baiting".

[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

I've updated the post to reflect this.

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

A good guess but so far as i can tell they dont actually message people directly outside of the initial contact. The chat rooms are barely active but ive been idling on the matrix for days and nothing.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Easier and/or less moderated. They would be much more difficult for a moderator to track down if you're talking with them on another platform.

[–] CTDummy@lemm.ee 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

The same reason a lot scam emails are riddled with typos, follow recognisable formats (eg nigerian prince) and can be easily determined as scams. If you can spot it, you aren’t the mark. It’s a form of selection bias. If you recognise Nicole you probably aren’t new to Lemmy or the Fediverse and are a bad mark. I’d guess, I never followed the links, don’t generally follow links dm’d from random, days old accounts in general. Maybe Nicole truly is just thirsty for Lemmy friends and keeps getting banned lmao.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly people that do recognize it for what it is should respond. Keep them talking to waste their time so they can't hurt someone else.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But then you're also wasting your own time.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

If we all wasted 5 minutes we could shut down the system.

People really underestimate the power of collective action. It's just meat based ddos.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

It's just meat based ddos.

What a fascinating sentence.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Maybe. That gets expensive very fast. We should all ask for artwork.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. I always love talking to Indian scammers when they call about my student loans that don't exist.

I already asked 2 scammers on discord for bathwater and they never took me up on it :( it's a cruel world

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

yeah but it's fun

[–] CTDummy@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That easier done with more involved scams like phone calls you see YouTubers do. Especially since they likely paid for that info. Places like here there’s no buy in so it’s a volume game i imagine. If I can’t get you to another platform to buy me stuff I’d move on to the next one quickly as possible.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I had one Indian scammer use my name so I was interested. Then he asked if my email was still current and gave an email that I used like 20 years ago in middle school. I laughed and told him he paid for shitty info. It was a goddamn Hotmail account to give you an idea.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Their time is worthless, they use slave labor.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And if you can get them to do stupid things, you can post about it here!

https://www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm

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[–] fastfinge@rblind.com 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wish I knew. I followed the link to the Matrix community, and it was just confused people and trolling NAZI's. No Nicole, no attempt at catfishing.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

I guess the scammers are also in the process of figuring out how to use the Fediverse. Give them time. :)

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah this is what I'm confused about, why would you send your potential catfish victims to the same place where they can talk to each other and then ignore them?

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Some 7D chess I can’t possible comprehend or a really bored troll.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The point is to introduce me to my future wife so stop messaging her!!

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Did you call dibs?

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've received 3 Nicole messages since I've been on here, each one with a different photo. It's weird, really weird. I ran the photos through TinEye and Google Reverse Image Search but I found no exact matches. The photos are blurry somewhat, which implies that they are shots taken from a video, which is a method catfish have used to evade detection. It's also possible that the original photos have long been deleted (as far as I'm aware, this would contribute to evading detection) and the catfish is using this to their advantage.

Someone looked into one of the Nicole accounts, and on that account there was a photo of something shiny, I believe it was a buttplug, and there was clearly a reflection of an old white man reflecting off the object. Once that was pointed out, they deleted the photo. So whatever the intentions are, I'm sure it's nothing good.

I'm guessing it's a pig butchering scam of some kind. The messages advertise other platforms, along with a chatroom that is named "hell". The aim is to lull a person into a false sense of security via catfishing, pretending to be the their friend or lover, and then pull a scam on them.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone looked into one of the Nicole accounts, and on that account there was a photo of something shiny, I believe it was a buttplug, and there was clearly a reflection of an old white man reflecting off the object.

I want to know more about this!

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, see, a buttplug is basically a plug, but for your butt. Would you like to know more?

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’ve received 3 Nicole messages since I’ve been on here, each one with a different photo. It’s weird, really weird. I ran the photos through TinEye and Google Reverse Image Search but I found no exact matches. The photos are blurry somewhat, which implies that they are shots taken from a video, which is a method catfish have used to evade detection. It’s also possible that the original photos have long been deleted (as far as I’m aware, this would contribute to evading detection) and the catfish is using this to their advantage.

They could also be photos catfished from other people.

I think Lemmy ran out of Beans, so someone decided to make that as a joke.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The point is I can't even get a known scammer to talk to me :(

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

hi it me john mastodon can u send me 200 vbucks so i can keep making website

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What’s the point of any scam? To make money.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago
[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Finally got one today!

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