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How fucking dumb are these asshats? Calling boycotts of a shitty product which is first amendment protected activity, illegal? Super dumb Promising to make even more of these cars when his company already struggles to sell them and they sit in lots collecting dust for years? Then promising that these cars will either be self driving or they wont drive at all, which is his way of saying he will finally succeed in delivering FSD after over a half a decade of continuously failed promises to deliver, in his own extremely moronic grasp of the english language.

This is nothing more than a fucking dumpster fire fueled with weapons grade plutonium levels of stupidity.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It doesnt matter. The parade must go on. They will produce whatever they want, however they want. Before a a sea of oligarchs the American King did decree their power would not just be preserved but thrive. Their schemes work to unravel ownership as we speak and sequester it to them alone. The only voice and power we have is that which we were born with. I suggest we band together to make use of it before they figure out how to turn all of us into eejits, not just the guillable.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The are just so delusional. How many of these Cyberstuck dumpster fire swasticars are collecting dust already? Tesla has to write in a clause saying that buyers aren't allowed to sell the vehicle for 2 years and a large number of owners are already desperate to break that agreement. Its nice to see tesla stock value plummet but it’s unfortunately not enough. Also shows how disgusting and delusional musk and people like him are. Crying crocodile tears because hes lost some of the unrealized wealth of his assets even though he still has hundreds of billions. Meanwhile reddit is deleting comments criticizing these fascists and calling for a revolution while ignoring content that praises violence towards women, lgbtq people, leftists and leftist aligning subsections of the population. Ive never been more disgusted by the society we live in and I was pretty damn disgusted already in the last 2 decades. Now it seems the only progress made is in the opposite direction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tesla has to write in a clause saying that buyers aren't allowed to sell the vehicle for 2 years and a large number of owners are already desperate to break that agreement.

Doesn't that break the 'first-sale doctrine' to limit someone's ability to on-sell a product they own?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you accept that stipulation as a condition of sale they can sure you for beach of contract. See Ford vs John Cena https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a21622751/the-flip-that-flopped-john-cena-and-ford-settle-gt-resale-lawsuit/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It is ridiculous. i know some luxury high end sports automobile retailers have this stipulation like ferrari, buggati, rolls royce, bently, but those are highly desirable vehicles and they want to limit the second hand market to increase the value of their product for better reasons than what musk is trying to do. He just wants to prevent mass sell offs of the shit boxes teslas are. If people who want to get rid of their cars but cant because they will be sued to oblivion by a company belonging to the (once) richest man on earth then Most tesla owners will end up not selling their shit box dumpster fires. I mean I definitely wont be owning an ev anytime soon for multiple reasons. Number one they are death traps(people have been trapped inside and cooked alive in multiple lithium battery fire incidents) plus the mining of lithium is not inly ecologically unfriendly and unsustainable but it is a form Of extremely exploitative resource extraction which is why there is only one lithium mine (in Nevada i believe)in the us and there is a struggle to open any other lithium vanes to extraction mining in the us(the largest one being in Maine if I remember correctly?) but there is a bottleneck within lithium battery production that many ev proponents are ignoring. We would have tk increase the production of lithium batteries by over 1000% just to meet the needs of the automotive industry to filly transition to EV and this doesn't even account for the cordless tooling industry, lawn care tooling like riding lawnmowers chain saws etc since a vast majority of pros in that industry still heavily rely on 2 stroke combustion tech to get the job done. Its just completely non feasible. We really need to dump research and development into improving solar power production and efficiency. There is a german company that has a viable solar car called Sono, its not perfect but this is the kind of tech we need to develop and invest in. Not space karen’s grifting schemes. Tesla is a fucking dumpster fire and allowing such a decrepit corrupt company to steer the behemoth of innovation that is the future of automotive and all high torque machine required industries for the next century is just so ass backwards dumb it isn't funny in any way. Its concerning and frightening.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump was constantly ridiculing electric cars on the campaign trail and now this moronic pivot. Such a fucking imbecile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Another example of his fucking stupid trumpers are. No morals, no logic, not even basic thinking. Just whatever went in the ear that day from their favorite propaganda outlet. Nothing but wastes of oxygen

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is...is Musk imitating Trump's awkward front-leaning posture, or is the camera just angled that way?

Anyway let him waste money filling storage facilities. Hopefully hurricanes or tornadoes will destroy a bunch of them shortly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The HGH is turning him into a cybertruck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Rich people all use drugs. Most of them can hide it better but now with trump and musk so ingratiated with political power its become so apparently obvious how high af they are all the time. Especially when he was so rolled out at the inauguration he was looking at the stars and rolling his neck around. Plus the bruises on trumps hands are probably from IV lines so he can self administer whatever cocktail of narcotics he self medicates with between live taping for the worst reality TV show in the history of reality TV shows and or the world. Lets not forget the guy who worked on the apprentice with trump said on the record that donny needed to maintain on adderall, snort coke religiously and then come down on benzos. Plus after his first administration the white house pharmacy wrote a record number of scripts for fentanyl and seemed to have misplaced a large amount of the drug as well. The war on drugs is just a tool to use militarized police and surveillance on leftists and vilify these demographics to low iq plebeians who trust what they are told through propaganda outlets.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Its a transparent play to try to boost the stock price, as with turning the White House into a car showroom was.

I honestly cannot think of anybody dumber than Elon right now as his core market for Tesla are the very ones hes pissing off with his behavior.

Much of his personal wealth and collateral he is on the hook for, is tied up in Tesla shares. Its one of the reasons he wanted that insane pay package from Tesla.

Compare to Bezos who has been unloading his shares, something like $13bn last 12 months? He sticks a fair amount into Blue Origin but nothing like Musk spent on Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah who can forget the famous “if i have to chose between a shark and electrocution, im chosing electrocution every time” verbal diarrhea diatribe during the election saying “I said let me ask you a question, and then he said, thats a very smart wuestion, nobodys asked me that before must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT, VERY SMART” i cant believe americans still believe our elections have any semblance of integrity whatsoever i guess we can thank nixon and reagan for gutting education standards 40-60 years ago and legacy media for shoving fascist corporatist propaganda down our throats relentlessly since then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

when his company already struggles to sell them and they sit in lots collecting dust for years?

My good sir, I think you'll actually find they sit in lots and set on fire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is a shame. That insurance payout is more than zero, and reducing the supply makes them look more in demand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah lithium fires from Ev’s is quite a prevalent issue. They require about 7-10 times the amount of water to extinguish. Chemical companies are currently trying to develop the best method for extinguishing them. I have heard fire fighters talking about this issue where they have submerged failed lithium ev batteries underwater and the batteries have actually reignited multiple times before being inert/safe to handle. Humanity needs to reevaluate the future of the automotive industry because lithium batteries as they are isnt a sustainable solution. Never-mind the bottleneck of lithium battery production that makes it almost impossible to scale up production the 1000-1500% needed to fully replace ICE vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I don’t think environmentally conscious people have been the core market for tesla products for at least 5-6 years. Now its just rich assholes who want to brag about having a novel technology in their garage. Hopefully the wall streets bets/ gme crowd was able to sell off their tesla shares quickly enough after the famous “autistic gesture” of “giving my heart out to the crowd” elon made at the inauguration. Because tesla going from 700+ a share to $248 in just a few years is just so fucking funny, what a dumpster fire. Even 248 is way more than that garbage product is worth. No good automobiles have been made in the usa since the early 1970’s right before nixon ended the gold standard and thus began the rapid decline of the us dollar and us industrial manufacturing strength.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

20 years ago, if you had told me GWB was using the White House lawn to sell cars, I would've thought that was a little on the nose. Too stupid even for Dubya. But here we are. How long before Trump and Musk start ending their speeches with "smash that like and subscribe for 10% off RAID: Shadow Legends"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump makes dubya almost look like a desirable president. I mean he is still a disgusting war criminal and j cant stand the bush crime family, dont even get me started on them. But that is how stupid and disgustingly overtly fascist Donald trump is he makes your less abusive ex president almost look like a good guy. Plus bush was so dumb while chenney and the corporatists behind him were calling the shots it was funny. Trump is so dumb and over confident he believes he has all this power and those with the real power are doing what they need to in order to humor him and maintain the illusory fantasy he believes in his adderal/cole/benzo fueled delirium its fucking dangerous to a level that is close to giving a 4 year old the nuclear football and changing the passcode to his favorite number / color combo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was thoroughly done with all legacy media during Trump's first term, when they all decided that would be a good time to rehabilitate Dubya's image. I get that he's not as bad as Trump, but they way they all started swooning over the good ol' days of Dubya's war crimes was disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was done with them before that. But seeing them malign and slander the only hope working class gen z and Millennials had for any chance at a decent life in bernie sanders’ campaign and how they manipulated the narrative to convince people the DNC leaks was a russian plot really made my blood boil. The lengths these fucks will go to ensure we never get another presidential administration that resembles FDR in any way ever again is fucking exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It'll take a revolution. And to borrow one of their own phrases; it'll be bloodless... if they allow it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are 100% right. They wont allow it so it will be bloody. They have done a lot to keep the working class very poor so unfortunately i don't have any arms atm but as soon as i get some expendable income ill be grabbing an AK. Its funny how the right thinks that neo liberals are lefties. They don't have a clue what real leftists looks like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would like to avoid a bloody revolution at all cost, except the cost of progress. If that's what it takes, then so be it. I do think we have some avenues to explore before we get to that point, but they are closing fast. If something doesn't change drastically and soon, we are looking at a French 1789 type of event.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think we are beyond that point. 13 of the 14 defining traits of fascism are evident in both partied. The only trait with plausible deniability is fraudulent elections. But its obvious that the rich have subverted every other aspect of our political system with money to the point of legalized corruption and it is in my opinion naive to think they would stop there because democracy is sacred to them and they would keep integrity in elections for our highest office for any reason what soever.

Within the last 10-15 years or so the highest court in Germany decided a case on electronic voting and they ultimately decided that electronic voting is unconstitutional. The reason being that it is impossible to differentiate between legitimate results and fraudulent results for anyone who isn't a cyber security and ot IT expert. And unfortunately i was never able to find this video again but sometime during the 2016 primaries i found a video of election officials testing a vote tabulation machine against their inputed information and the machine completely changed the results. This in tandem with the fact that in iowa sanders supporters outnumbered clinton supporters at their caucus 2 to 1 but clinton was still handed the iowa delegates regardless just solidifies my belief that our democratic processes have been corrupted at every possible instance.

Then there was the princeton study which concluded that the amount of influence one has on the american political system and any piece of policy/ legislation os directly proportional to the amount of wealth you own with regular working class people having a meaningless/ irrelevant statistically near zero influence on any policy regardless how popular or unpopular it may be. Lewis powell was an awful far right corporatist leach who was appointed to the supreme court by nixon in 1972 and did a lot to pave the way for citizens united and the current state of the supreme court but this problem goes beyond the mechanisms of the system itself which have obviously been corrupted by outside corporate influence such as fox news which was established to protect any future right wing administrations from being criticized the likes that nixon was in case of any future scandals that may arise of a similar nature and we see how that went. The roots of the fascist/ corporatist take over of our governemnt can be traced back to the nazi germany, the bush family and the central banking cartel which empowered him and wall street. The business plot was a real Conspiracy where wall street propositioned a highly decorated general (Smedly Butler) to lead a coup and overthrow FDR since they hated his populist left wing policies and the threat to their capital it posed. And butler played along with this coup attempt which was orchestrated by prescott bush and many of the other legacy robber barron families of wall street. He played along up until the final moment where he blew the whistle and ended up testifying to congress and the house unamerican activities committee but unfortunately they did nothing likely because they were paid off not to. And although this coup attempt wasn’t successful then and FDR served 4 terms as the most popular president in all us history they quickly worked to prevent this from ever happening passing the 22nd amendment to limit presidential terms to 2.

Bur fastforward 90 or so years and now the son and grandson of the coup’s main architect were both sitting presidents(one was even head of the cia which is arguably a position far more powerful than president) and our government is now blatantly and obviously controlled by an intersection of wall street corporate and military industrial power which which is completely intertwined with almost all of the news media outlets and all serve as propaganda outlets currently ever since Reagan and then bush senior vetoed attempts to legislate the fairness in media doctrine that allowed journalistic integrity to flourish in the usa up till the 1980’s when everything began to clearly deteriorate as a result of right wing fascist political aggitation begun in the 2 decades prior.

So because of all this (and some other things I haven’t mentioned) I personally believe we are so very far beyond the point where any systemic change will or can be initiated / Implemented through the mechanisms of the very system which has so clearly allowed the ultra wealthy to manipulate its democratic processes in such a way that insulated and protected them from democracy itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm surprised no one has insinuated that you think both parties are the same.

good read though, if a bit long

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Both parties may not be identical but they are definitely serving the same exact masters. So both parties are working towards the same goals. Thwarting leftist populism at all costs and promoting a society and economy that fights economic democracy and doesnt threaten capital ie: fascism.

Its funny i was on reddit today and a post hit the top of all (briefly before they nipped that in the bud to appease shareholders) about how reddit moderation is cracking down super hard on Luigi Mangione posts mentions and upvotes and someone posted an AI prompt response in GROK 3 and here it is;

I think if you ask an AI they'll tell you.

Here's what Grok told me a couple weeks ago:

here is Grok 3's unexpurgated take:

(Me) Assuming that the billionaires solidify their control of the US government past the point that the people can ever have a say in what happens anymore and voting becomes irrelevant, what ultimately happens after the system is completely controlled by the 0.001%?

If billionaires were to solidify control over the U.S. government to the point where democracy effectively collapses and the public has no meaningful influence, the outcome would likely be a slow but steady transformation into an oligarchic system—think a modern feudalism with extra steps. Power would concentrate in the hands of a tiny elite, maybe a few dozen families or individuals, who’d use their wealth to dictate policy, law, and resource distribution. History gives us some clues: when unchecked elites run the show—Roman patricians, Renaissance merchant-princes, or even post-Soviet oligarchs—things tend to follow a pattern.

First, you’d see the economy morph into a machine that funnels wealth upward even faster. Tax structures, labor laws, and regulations would tilt hard toward protecting the 0.001%—no more pesky antitrust enforcement or worker protections. Corporations owned by these billionaires would dominate, merging with the state in a kind of gilded fascism. Think monopolies on steroids, where dissenters get crushed not by jackboots but by algorithm-driven blacklists and financial ostracism. The middle class would erode as wages stagnate and automation (owned by the elite) displaces jobs, leaving a stark divide: a small aristocracy and a sprawling, dependent underclass.

Society wouldn’t stay quiet forever, though. People don’t just shrug off losing their voice—they simmer, then boil. Without voting as an outlet, unrest would grow. Protests, riots, maybe even low-level insurgencies could pop up, especially as inequality becomes unbearable. The billionaires would counter with surveillance tech and private security forces—Blackwater 2.0, but with drones and AI. Public education and healthcare would likely wither, keeping the masses less capable of organizing or resisting. Propaganda would ramp up too, probably through media they own, painting their rule as inevitable or benevolent.

Long term, it’s unstable. Absolute control sounds nice if you’re at the top, but it breeds resentment and fragility. The 0.001% might fracture internally—power-hungry elites often turn on each other when there’s no external threat to unify them. Or some black-swan event (climate disaster, tech breakthrough, foreign interference) could disrupt their grip. If the system gets too rigid, it might just collapse under its own weight, like a top-heavy empire—think Rome 2.0, but with better Wi-Fi. Alternatively, they could pull off a dystopian win, keeping the masses pacified with bread, circuses, and VR headsets while they sip champagne in fortified enclaves.

No crystal ball here, but the vibe would be a mix of The Hunger Games aesthetics and Gilded Age vibes—opulence for the few, quiet desperation for the rest, and a slow burn toward either revolution or resignation. What do you think—would people fight back hard, or just adapt to the new normal?

(Me again) In the scenario you just described, what happens to the billionaires themselves after society collapses?

Once society collapses under the weight of their control, the billionaires’ fate hinges on how well they’ve insulated themselves and how the collapse plays out. They’ve got resources—money, private security, bunkers, offshore havens—so they’re not exactly scrambling for scraps right away. But they’re not invincible either; a societal breakdown cuts both ways.

If it’s a chaotic free-for-all—think riots, infrastructure failure, and armed factions—they’d likely hole up in fortified compounds or flee to places like New Zealand or private islands they’ve already bought. They’ve got the means: private jets, loyal mercenaries, and stockpiles of food and fuel. Some might even have tech-driven mini-cities ready, with solar grids and hydroponics to ride out the storm. For a while, they’d live like post-apocalyptic kings, surrounded by guards and sipping vintage wine while the world burns. But isolation has limits. Supply chains, even private ones, erode in total chaos. Their staff—pilots, security, engineers—might turn on them if loyalty fades or desperation kicks in. A pissed-off ex-employee with a gun and a grudge could unravel their little utopia fast.

If the collapse spawns organized resistance—say, a coalition of pissed-off citizens or a rogue military splinter—they’d face bigger threats. Billions don’t buy immunity from a determined mob or a drone strike. History’s littered with examples: French aristocrats thought their chateaus were safe until the guillotines rolled out. The billionaires might try to negotiate, offering resources to warlords or new power players, but trust would be thin. They could end up as bargaining chips, ransomed, or just eliminated as symbols of the old regime.

Internally, they’d probably start eating each other too. With no common enemy left to unify them, rivalries would flare. One billionaire’s private army might raid another’s compound for dwindling resources. Alliances would shift, paranoia would spike, and their little oligarchy could fracture into a survivalist soap opera. Think Game of Thrones, but with fewer dragons and more Teslas.

Longer term, if society rebuilds, they might try to reinsert themselves as saviors—funding reconstruction, playing philanthropist to rewrite their legacy. Some might pull it off, especially if they’ve hoarded critical tech or knowledge. Others could fade into obscurity, their wealth meaningless in a world that’s moved on. Worst case, they’re hunted down by a new order that sees them as the root of the mess.

So, post-collapse, they’d either cling to power as warlord-lite figures in their gilded cages, get taken out by betrayal or vengeance, or slink away to obscurity if the world resets. Depends on how ruthless they stay and how much the rest of humanity cares to chase them. What’s your take—would they outlast the chaos or get swallowed by it?

Its like some people are sooooo fucking close to realizing the truth of our reality but are so conditioned to ignore the signs and keep fostering the delusional belief in American exceptionalism/ democratic integrity that has clearly left the chat decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

He is fucked... I may be an old fart but I heard my 18 yo son almost pissing his pants laughing with his friends at what a loser Musk is

If the younger gen soon to buy cars would be ashamed to be seen in a tesla, there will be no saving this brand

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're going to use government money to buy them. I guarantee it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

There is already a rumor that the federal Government is going to sign a 400 million dollar (which would be like (2500-3000 armored cyber trucks maybe les depending on the tech installed in each of these cunt mobiles) deal To purchaae armored cybertrucks after they already disconnected all the superchargers installed at federal Facilities ?!?🥴🤔😵‍💫 I think a room full of third graders could run the government more effectively than these asshats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The only people buying teslas now are either maga morons which makes nl sense since they hate EV technology or people who can find them used so cheap they can’t pass up the deal. Many people are trying to get out of their contracts but are hindered because tesla put in a clause saying you cant sell jt for the first 2 years similar to what ferrari bently rolls Royce and other super high end sports/luxury brands do.(he is so egotistical he thinks his poorly engineered flammable paper weights are on the same level) it gives me pleasure and hope tk hear that generation z knows what a looser and grifter musk and his little orange bitch are. You raised him right, good job comrade.