This is what you voted for protest-non-voters. Congratulations!
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Do you have any evidence that "protest voters" had any meaningful impact on the elections? Because all evidence I've seen to date indicates the same voter and election fraud that's put the GOP into power for decades is to blame (purging voter rolls, gerrymandering, arbitrary rejection of postal votes, disenfranchisement)
If you don't have evidence, have you ever considered the whole "Liberals blaming progressives for Trump" is part of the multi-decade PsyOps campaign to turn Liberals against the left, and continue shifting the overton window in normalizing fascism and corporate dictatorship?
Maybe you should stop blaming the citizens who drew a line in the sand at genocide, and start blaming the political class that facilitated genocide, and continue to — perhaps rather surprisingly to liberals? — do absolutely nothing as a fascist dictatorship is implemented by their major corporate donors?
Edit. I'm Australian. Thanks for proving my point though! The liberals of L/politics are identical to the liberals of R/politics, blinded by 80 years of corporate propaganda. Enjoy your fascist dictatorship and civil war!
Exhibit B. Congratulations!
I am an Australian, who has expected American fascism longer than half of you have been alive.
Thanks for proving my point though.
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You're getting downvoted and I'm soon to follow, but everything you said is reasonable and it's almost never wrong to ask for evidence. I continue to be surprised at how tightly this community clings to the narrative that non-voters alone decided the election.
I really think that's part of the psy-ops. Just bots everywhere down voting anything supporting unity.
Nope, not a psy op. Very real person here that downvotes this horseshit.
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I haven't seen any of the obvious "data science fueled" bot activity on Lemmy that I noticed on Reddit well over a decade ago. These communities are barely 1/10000th the size of Reddit right now, and still 1/100th the size of Reddit from a decade ago. Lemmy is simply not large enough to be worth the effort for PsyOps operations.
The point of PsyOps is to run the campaigns on major "marketplaces of ideas" where they reach as many eyeballs as possible, and then the victims will repeat those narratoves elsewhere. The Cambridge Analytica CEO described it candidly in one of these. Threads on Lemmy are really just examples of the victims disseminating and perpetuating the propaganda. 99% of these comments are real people who genuinely believe the dumb shit they type.
That's entirely possible. I haven't seen any evidence that protest votes had any significant effect on the outcome. Mostly, people seem to have been less motivated in general, as well as widespread voter suppression purging voters from all states. But anyone who is screaming at protest voters for having morals that they refuse to compromise on is not only stupid, but has lost sight of what is virtuous. Empathy is a good thing, and having enough that you cannot support those who support genocide is admirable. Choosing the lesser of 2 evils is also admirable for different reasons. Society needs both. Frothing at the mouth about people not voting for a bad candidate is ridiculous.
Corporate propaganda?
You might be surprised to learn there was more than one group at fault for this.
The "I don't like Biden" group should have known better. At least the magats have the excuse of being fully indoctrinated into a cult.
That's why the smaller group is called out. Because they knew better.
1st, gerrymandering has nothing to do with the presidential election. It was obvious from your post you know very little about US elections.
Next, there were 8.2 million fewer votes in 2024 than 2020. All of that loss was on the democratic side. Do you have evidence literally millions of voters were disenfranchised?
Had those missing voters participated in good faith in 2024, Trump would not be president today.
So gerrymandering — which has facilitated the stealing of state elections and influenced state laws for decades, including around the handling of elections, purging of legitimate voters, disenfranchisement, etc — has no effect on federal elections whatsoever?
Please continue to libsplain me on my knowledge of US politics... I'm sure you're able to see the big picture and long term trends; not simply as confidently ignorant as 99% of D's I've dealt with on social media for the last 2 decades. Keep up the stellar work, champ!
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To us non-Americans this is a really bad look. Did you really do everything you could to prevent this? Anyway, we’re all here and we all have to deal with it now. And really, you / we didn’t start this. The wheels were already set in motion before most of our time. Fascism is the inevitable outcome of capitalism. But we must be the ones to take action and set things right and build a better world.
You can't admit you were wrong then or now. Sigh. But keep blaming them. Go on. Do it.
We are doing it, what did you miss on the previous post?
You and your "but genocide" argument got us here. Yeah, Harris is super flawed and I wouldn't vote her to save my life, BUT THE ALTERNATIVE WAS WHAT WE ARE LIVING NOW. What part of "I will be a dictator" made you think "well that sounds like a good alternative!" ??
And in case it need saying: Yes, genocide is bad, doh! We all know that but it was between someone who wouldn't explicitly criticize Israel for it's actions and the one that said "I will eradicate Palestine" and for some reason you either voted for the latter or didn't vote at all because reasons?
Most of the accounts I had these arguments with before the election magically disappeared from the Internet so it's safe to assume that those were Russian paid shills bit apparently there are enough of you types left who really do practice professional mental gymnastics
If you really really really had wanted that genocide stopped you had voted Harris and then right after her inauguration, you'd paralyze the country in protests until she will.
But noooooo, you preferred this, whatever the hell this is supposed to be.
I hope you enjoyed your last election ever.
What are you trying to accomplish?
To congratulate the non-protest-voters on their vote for this!
One of my close friends got her doctorate last year and recently hired as a scientist at EPA. She is improving methods of surveying urban soils using remote methods like ground penetrating radar, this helps to inform landowners/potential developers the true conditions of the soil they are building on. A shame the government doesn’t think that’s important anymore.
Sounds like woke DEI garbage. Everyone knows plants need Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator. It’s got what plants crave.
It's got electrolytes...
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The government is being run by the sorts of people who are doing the illegal dumping of hazardous waste that your EPA friend is trying to detect. Of course they don't want her to do it; they don't want to be held accountable!
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She is improving methods of surveying urban soils
Correction, she was.
She hasn’t been layed off yet but, yea, only a matter of time…
A shame the government doesn’t think that’s important anymore.
Not just unimportant, sand in the gears of their capitalist steamroller. The true conditions of anything must not interfere with the advertised conditions.
and also the funding on research in general is going out the window, making people trying to enter stem industries all that unlikely. when its already very hard to enter stems as it is.
And the shareholders applauded like there was no tomorrow, and they were right.
They need to change their name to Environment Destruction Agency.
I assume everything they will roll back is preventing companies from making more money.
"Yeah, we know this chemical causes hypercancer but if we can put it in our food, it'll save 13¢/ton. Can ya give me a quick ol authorization there, guy?"
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Only select companies, and only In the short term. In the medium to long term it won't help them.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
What do the letters stand for then?
Extraction of Profits Agency
Environmental Putrification Agency
Enshitification Policy Agency
Enterprise Protection Agency
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I want to know if these people truly don't believe in climate change or they know it's so bad already that nothing can reverse it... and just don't care.
They think/know they’ll be rich enough to avoid the negative problems climate change will present, or they’ll be dead before it happens. They’re writing checks that the rest us will have to cash and laughing at us as we cheer for them to do so.
I think you are overthinking it. They don't even have climate change in their considerations, they are solely focused on the short term profits corporations can make from dismantling government regulations. That is how corporate cleptocracy works.
Most don't think it's real. (As far as I can tell.)
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Incase anyone out of the know about the head of EPA: Trump Ally, Ass-Kisser, Defending the shithead during the first impeachment hearing and sworn in after being selected by Trump. There you go.
Now you can not be surprised anymore.
He also went to the same highschool as I did. Of 900 kids in my graduating class 450 actually graduated...
Nothing good comes from that school, myself included lol
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Geez I hope somebody doesn’t whip out some amendment or other and explain things to this man in a way he’ll be sure to comprehend.
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Should rename it to EDA( Environmental Destruction Agency).
Or Environmental Freedom Force for short.
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I love the taste of dioxin in my tap water!
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