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Troubled robot vacuum-cleaner maker iRobot, abandoned by Amazon after regulators effectively doomed the web giant's takeover offer, has warned investors it may not survive the next 12 months.

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[–] [email protected] 189 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Hmm so this entire trick of setting up companies just to be bought by mega corps appears to be not a viable strategy if anti trust law is enforced?

Edit: apparently this company was set up before sell to mega corp craze got kicked off. I don't think changes the thesis but this case study doesn't support it with the strength I suggested

Hmm as if last 30 years of corpo behavior has been essentially to maintain mega corp dominance via captured regulators and legislators

We got the capitalism alright but where is the free market at, daddy?

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't worry, the new strategy is to string a company along with talks of a buyout, then when their cash runs out and they declare bankruptcy, to buy all the assets on fire sale.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Owners of the take over target shoulda worked harder and maybe ate less avocado toast?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (7 children)

setting up companies just to be bought by mega corps

iRobot was originally founded all the way back in 1990 and have sold quite a lot of Roomba vacuums, advancing innovation in home automation along the way. I don’t think anyone can ever say that they set up this company for a quick flip corpo pump and dump.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (18 children)

(I know I didn't contribute shit & just complain but) ... isn't it a bit weird how after all this time there arent any good open sauce diy robot kits?

Like, materials, sensors, brushes, filters, batteries, etc are all cheaply available, a basic board could literally be just cut plywood with the rest is the things mounted on top (who even needs a cover?). And ofc one could mount various weapons mod on it.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There is https://valetudo.cloud/ for a lot of existing models, it's about the closest thing we have.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh fuck, ~~I'm gonna~~ I might test this.
I've never heard of it before, but the more I read the more I like it.

Thx!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have it on a Roborock S5 and it works great, so much more stable than the original firmware that requires an internet connection.

Certain models can be harder to root though, so read through the description and guide thoroughly first.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"for a lot of models" is a bit of an exaggeration. Especially as Xiaomi/Dreame try to actively restrict Valetudo use.

But yes, Valetudo is a great project. I'd just wish there was a manufacturer who would openly endorse it.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Go ahead and make one then. Nobody is stopping you from being the first.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

... I'm that, my best is what is stopping me :(.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Popular Science had an "open source" robot lawnmower plans in the...80s? I have it somewhere. Old enough that it used deep cycle lead-acid batteries and spinning round dremel blades. No laser to cut the grass, although it did use LEDs for sensors for grass height.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Oof, as an American company the rest of the world is boycotting them too.

Yup, they are toast. I dont think the Americans have realized how much permanent damage Trump has caused.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Democrats have known from the moment he was elected. Republicans are starting to figure it out now that they are feeling the effects. Of course, they were the ones who caused it so....

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Their products require their app, would this effectively turn their devices useless when the servers die?

I know it supports a single button to start cleaning, but I wonder if that will work properly without being able to call home.

Might be time for people to look for alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It technically still works without the app but it loses features that increase the efficiency of the map, tells it where not to clean, scheduled cleaning, etc.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So basically anything that makes it more useful than just doing it yourself.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everything that makes it better than a generic copy, yes

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I assume this will brick all Roombas past the 800 series. All the scheduling, advanced mapping features etc are hosted on AWS. You’ll be able to press clean to start but that’s pretty much it… That’s unless they open up their software which they probably won’t

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

It would be great if more smart devices had a LAN-only control mode like my 3D printer, TV and AV receiver.

I would be perfectly happy if my iRobot phone app only worked from inside my network.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Doesn't apply to iRobot but there are lots of robot vacuums that can be flashed with an open firmware with just a USB UART cable: https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html

As for the other devices, my 3D printer, projector and AV receiver are all locally controlled.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

At that point, I wouldn't trust ANY device that cannot be controlled locally, either natively or at least through some hacks.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Another company squandering their patents and market advantage. Reminds me of TiVo.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The free market is supposed to make this happen. The problem is that we have also built a system that just generates mountains of junk and e-waste. Because our government is feckless and refuses to actually regulate, ya know, anything with a shareholder attached.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm a bit of a diy and repair nerd for damned near anything. I have a near 20 year old roomba 530 model that still works great. Back then and for a good many years roombas were hands down the best bang for your buck. I haven't recommended them for the past decade. They fell behind in ability and build quality. Let alone any of the privacy concerns stuff. Damned shame.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Patiently awaiting Congress to ban any Chinese robot vacuums out of national security risk

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

my first thought was aren't they a part of the Military Industrial Complex, how could they possibly go bankrupt? It turns out they sold off that part of their business in 2016 to private equity. Oops.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So the Roomba I bought in 2021 is gonna stop working come 2026... Guess I need an open source vacuum now too 😩

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

this comment makes me question, is there an open source sex toy community?
edit: there is lmao https://github.com/PITR-DEV/ukbutt-mod

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Will certainly be a bummer if they do go under, I really appreciated their serviceability. Have several in the immediate family that have been going for over 7 years at this point though all kinds of calamities. Each time can I just pop out all the components clean/replace as necessary and get it back in service, good as new.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Agree. While I think there's been little effort to evolve their products at the same pace as their competitors, I have very much appreciated their servicability.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Haha. Ofc with these prices and features compared to some other good Chinese and other brands roomba is doomed. Like check vacuum wars on YT. Middle model roombas are on par with your typical Chinese brand robots but price is double. Basically, you pay for a brand 🤷.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We need decent European alternatives for robot vaccuums.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We need open source alternatives

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Once they are cut off from the parent company they will go rogue and attack in the night...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I got my first robot vacuum I was too impatient to wait for the battery to fully charge before trying it out so when I started it up it was only able to clean a small area before it had to go back to charge. Very exciting though!

Anyway I went to bed not realizing that once it was fully charged it would resume cleaning. So approximately 1am the vacuum wakes back up and starts cleaning. In my sleep-addled delirious state I had absolutely no idea what the fuck was going on. Suddenly it sounded like there was a jet engine in my room and I couldn't even tell where it was coming from until I jumped out of bed and there were red lights coming at me.

Saw my life flash before my eyes. Little fucker might as well have been a terminator.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Their products are like 5 years behind their competitors. It's inevitable.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pretty much inevitable. Nowadays there are so many robot vacuum cleaners from different brands, and everyone has more or less figured out the tech so they all work pretty well. (I have a Roborock, and have nothing to say about it other than it keeps the floors clean and doesn't cause me any grief.) There's no moat, so consumer market success is purely a matter of manufacturing and cost efficiency, and iRobot obviously would have a huge upfill fight against Samsung, Xiaomi, and a thousand other light consumer goods makers.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

So my vacuum will likely not work in 12 months. Niiiice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

The movie wasn't very good either

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well obviously, they need to get into the lucrative back alley robot vacuum cleaner fight rings. Strap on that knife iRobot vacuum, and lets go!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I’m glad my old, non-smart one still works fine. It slams into things and says, “Roomba needs help” or something when it eats a sock or wire I missed. But at least it will outlast the company’s servers.

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