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[–] [email protected] 87 points 5 days ago (7 children)

They need to announce the formation of a new party

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Due to political entrenchment it's more reasonable to change the DNC from within.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The ones that are in charge will not allow anyone that is a threat to their authority or power to mount any attempt to change the party.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Due to entrenchment it’s exactly why nothing changes from within.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thinking like this is why you are where you are with all those nukes. Form a party. Let more parties form. Ditch MSM and CSM (Centralised Social Media) and let the people decide.

If you want to have a country without kings, you need to be prepared to have absolutely no daddy on any front, including parties and media.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They've tried and failed which is why it's not worth doing. Democratic party is part of the Nazi agenda

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bernie is already 3rd party

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Then we need a fourth! /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That would guarantee more Republican wins

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'd have agreed with you pre-2025. But I could see it now. The Dems have been letting us down over and over again. We need a party that cuts out billionaire money and promises to enforce the same on all politicians once they take power.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It could still be something like 40% third party 15% democrats and 45% republicans, unless Republicans split as well, a third party can only make the "left" weaker.

We see it in Europe in countries where the left parties refuse to create alliances for ideological reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The problem is, it is very hard to win elections without money. So a party that cuts out billionaire spending is less likely to win while also splitting the dem vote.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Democrats outraised trump and still lost.

You need to not tell your voters to fuck off if you can imagine that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

Elon literally bought votes but you don’t count that when you say “outraised Trump”.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

I know! Maybe if they abandon everyone that you don't care about and focus only on the bot farms and billionaires that you do care about, they'll win!

Democrats can't keep moving to the right like you want them to. They hit a wall. They peeled off none of the republican votes you envy. But they got to throw people you hate under the bus, so it's good for you.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Splitting the dem vote implies that Democrats are entitled to all votes, not Republican. They have never done anything to earn mine. And after lurching far to the right, like they did this last election, I can't see how anyone thinks that they have earned their vote.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Then you will get more Trump and the GOP and fascism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The DNC gave us Trump and fascism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Na. That was fake leftists screeching “genicide Joe” and claiming both sides are the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In case you didn't know leftists are not Democrats, Democrats are closer in policy to Republicans than leftists are Democrats. Your party hosted more cops, zionists, and Republicans onto their convention stage than they did progressives. They cuddled up with right wing war criminals, and tried to out Republican Republicans. Your party did this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Left and right is a spectrum of ideology.

In the US that spectrum doesn’t exist to the left of democrats. It ends at democrats.

Those cops, zionists and republicans are also a part of our democracy and they have a vote. Leftists consistently lose elections for not considering this.

Democrats tried to be less moderate in 2016 and 2024 and lost because of it. Which is expected because leftists can’t win elections.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

They lost in 2016 and 2024 because they abandoned their base in an effort to lurch right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Doing things your way did just that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dems have won the majority of elections since the 90s. Biden/Harris lost because of inflation.

Republicans lost by waaay more in 2020. If they followed your mentality they would’ve lost in 2024. Instead they doubled down and won.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Democrats did what you wanted in 2016 and 2024 and lost. But at least you didn't have to move to the left.

You prefer trump to moving to the left.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Keeping the dnc intact ensures that government is run by Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How so? Republicans lost by a lot more in 2020 than dems lost by in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Maybe announcing a new party is premature, but at least talking about steps to realistically forming one would be huge. We need a revolutionary overhaul of our 2-party political system, and I posit that most Americans, those that voted and those who didn't, would agree that 2 bad options is not a real choice.

The binary creates the illusion of choice.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Why not Columbia University? Phony cowards scared of the heart of the beast.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this isn’t a rally, he’s just there to party.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Sheepdog in training being taught by seasoned sheepdog.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure there are lots of ASU fans here but personally I don't trust them.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

We need more of this! We need more of a movement!

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