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If the US weren't helping Russia by giving them a lifeline, this war would probably be over this year.
Russia has been increasing trade with China in the past few years. I'm afraid that, even without US support now, Russia would still be able to carry on for a while longer :(
Russia can only keep up this pace of operations for 6 months to 1 year at most and that's it.
So then you have 3 years of war, at the expense of your own economy, at the expense of your own population, at the expense of a million dead, and you conquered only 20% of Ukraine.
That's it, then the manpower runs out. Russia is already arriving with tanks coming from the year 1955.
Ukraine is also able to produce 40% what they need themselves right now. They have 1.4 million drones, they have 2 factories of rare metal in Ukraine that produces munitions, more than america produces now, and Ukraine's production is only going to get more. So it's also not like russia is on top here despite north korea despite all the other support. So both sides are not going well, it's a wear and tear.
Russia can only keep up this pace of operations for 6 months to 1 year at most and that’s it.
That’s it, then the manpower runs out. Russia is already arriving with tanks coming from the year 1955.
I remember the warmongerers trotting these lines out at the start of fighting. 3+ years later, Russia has a big chunk of Ukraine and is steadily gaining more.
China really doesnt like sanctions either
That's a green light for them to invade Taiwan then.
Sanctions are not binary and when used smartly can target Russia without directly hurting China. That's what we did already and the last sanctions by Biden targeting banking were very effective afaik.
So effective that Russia is winning the war three years later.
Yes, but we applied them because Russia attacked. Once we apply them we can no longer use them as leverage. If you tell China you're going to do it even if they don't invade Taiwan then that gets erased from the "Cons" side of the board.
That seems like exactly the kind of scene where Donald Trump likes to appear and cheer for the losing side
Ah yes, cause Russia is definitely the losing side here 🙄
You've been posting "The Russian Economy will collapse any day now!" posts every week for like two years at this point. Doesn't it eventually feel silly to keep making these predictions that never come true?
That's why Putin commanded Trump to put an end to Ukraine STAT.
Not working? More people for the meat grinder I guess.
manufacturing index dropping from 53.1 points to 50.2 within a month
That is source for headline. Above 50 is still expansion. It's below 50 in US.
21% interest rates
Ruble is best performing currency over the year. Few Russians have mortgages, and housing affordability is good. Interest rates are high because of full employment created by highly paid military, and interest rate was set up to defend ruble.
behind closed door talks of layoffs in military industrial complex
Peace is expected to reduce the soaring military production that has since the war made Russia vastly outperform US colonies. Passing Japan and Germany in PPP (most important measure) GDP to 4th in world.
If you want Russia to stop growing so fast, give it peace. But it is dead wrong/false propaganda, that continuing to threaten its existence will cause it to be less determined and productive in fighting your evil.
stop invading lmao
If being at war is so good for the Russian economy, why would Russia accept peace? Or, if it did, why would it not just start another war?
Russia has always preferred peace, with very reasonable red lines to avoid the war, and a peace deal reached 1 month after war started.
The morale and conviction of Russian people and army would not be as high as it is now defending itself from NATO evil, if it were to provoke a conflict with NATO. While economy is productive and outperforming US colonies, its not without problems, nor has a leadership/people that wouldn't prefer peace.
Russia's red lines are that:
Absolutely wild to call these "very reasonable". These red lines are "be our puppet or else"
Ukraine trade with EU is not a reason for war. US led coup that installed nazis that put apartheid laws, and then exterminated areas that wanted autonomy is a reason for war.
Russia annexed Crimea literally a matter of weeks after the revolution. There was not even any time for the interim government to apply policies for Russia to respond to. It also annexed Crimea before the war in Donbass started, so your explanation makes even less sense there. Your conspiracy theory about the US installing the guy that would have absolutely obviously been the leader of an interim government anyway does not help.
Palestine freedom anti genocide protesters started Oct 8. They knew what was coming. Nazis questioning Russia's access to naval base was a natural nazi move, but not going to be entertained. Liberating Crimea was the most obvious area to liberate first. Was never going to accept or deserve nazi rule.
Your conspiracy theory about the US installing the guy that would have absolutely obviously been the leader of an interim government anyway does not help.
US was involved in fabricating protests, covering up the nazi black flag assassination of protesters, and blaming it on government forces, caught on tape hand picking successor government position. That the coup resulted in the "obvious leader post coup" is not much of a justification for a coup.
What do Palestine protestors have to do with this?
questioning Russia's access to naval base
A base that was in Ukraine. Fucking hell, listen to yourself. Imagine if someone said "Oh well it's a natural Nazi move to question America's access to Guantanamo Bay."
Russia didn't liberate shit. Russia took Crimea.
caught on tape hand picking successor government position
Caught on tape saying that the existing leader of the opposition is the guy that would be the head of the interim government. That's about as much an indication of guilt as an election pollster calling a safe seat correctly.
If America wanted Yatseniuk in power so badly, why did it do nothing to keep him in power?
A base that was in Ukraine.
Crimea was a gift from Khrushchev at a time where people are still alive. Not much Ukrainian migration to Crimea happened in meantime. Ukraine's neutrality was part of the constitution that their independence was gifted. Crimea does not want to be ruled by nazi pig filth. To you, pro NATO nazi pig filth, awesome. Romanian anti-NATO nazi pig filth, straight to jail.
If America wanted Yatseniuk in power so badly, why did it do nothing to keep him in power?
Poroshenko even better nazi, with bonus privatization under capitalist ideology corruption. Helped CIA/US State department finance and media manipulate coup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko
Oh well if it became part of Ukraine in living memory then I guess that makes it absolutely fine, and on that basis the UK is completely within its rights to reconquer Pakistan, which was a gift granted in the partition of India
Not much Ukrainian migration to Crimea happened in meantime
Are you arguing for ethnostates? If you aren't, it does not matter how many ethnic Ukrainians lived there
Poroshenko
Oh, right, another guy who was voted out. Why did the US not install him instead of Yatseniuk, then? Why did they let Zelenskyy beat him?
Thank you for doing the lord's work. You'll never get past the Russo-pilled parrot speak but it's a joy to read sane comments.
Edit: The guy has 1.7k comments in 4 months and literally every one reads like it's pasted from a propaganda LLM. Drives me nuts that you can't have a normal conversation on the internet without being assaulted by this shit...
Why did they let Zelenskyy beat him?
Zelensky ran on a peace/Minsk compliance platform. Got the Russian vote. With his own nazi, but more moderate nazi, media support. Everything was going to come up CIA anyway.
lmao, right, so basically no matter what happened it was the CIA. That's very convenient.
You keep throwing the word "nazi" around quite a lot. Explain what it is, and why Ukraine is ruled by nazis now.
Banderites are equivalent enough to nazis. Ukrainian nationalists hateful of USSR/Russia fought with Germany during ww2 including administering extermination camps in Ukraine, and brutal massacres of "wrong" ethnic group villages. Stephan Bandera was their PR leader. He was given national hero with holiday status in 2019.
It was 2010, and it was annulled in 2011. The parliament rejected an attempt to re-commemorate him in 2019.
74% of Ukrainians have favourable view of him. Public celebrations of his birthday have massive turnout, with Poroshenko and Zelensky having praised him, and supported the "failed recommemeration vote". You are technically correct afaik.
Some other EU countries have had their own struggles helping Nazi Germany, and some still have parties that support far-right characters. That doesn't mean that the countries themselves are led by nazis. Furthermore, as the guy above mentioned, the leadership of Ukraine never followed through to regard this guy as a hero today. However, I find the following quite interesting:
A poll conducted in early May 2021 by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation together with the Razumkov Centre's sociological service showed that 32% of citizens considered Bandera's activity as a historical figure to be positive for Ukraine, as many considered his activity negative; another 21% consider Bandera's activities as positive as they are negative.
So, right before Russia invaded Ukraine, people were against this guy. However, as soon as Ukraine's independence was threatened by the same entity that this guy advocated against, people changed their opinion. The poll was taken immediately after the invasion, which would be a bit of a confounding variable here.
I chalk it up to socio-economic issues due to the Soviet Union, which led to poor education in many areas of Ukraine. See East Germany, where a majority of people have voted for AfD. Oh, and let's not forget the overall negative sentiment against Russia after they invaded in 2014.
Nevertheless, would you argue that invading Ukraine to "denazify" them makes sense in this context? You mentioned atrocities from WW2, but that's not being done today. Whatever deaths that were happening pre-2022 conflict were due to the Donbas War, which Russia also instigated. What reason would you then have to support Russia in this conflict? It is pretty clear that they are pulling in many arguments to justify their expansionist wishes.
Don't get me wrong, I am also of the opinion that the US should gtfo of Europe, but I do not see a reason to excuse whatever Putin's regime has been doing.
I chalk it up to socio-economic issues due to the Soviet Union, which led to poor education in many areas of Ukraine.
I think its the history of hatred fanned by Ukrainian Orthodox Church vs Russia (and their orthodox Church) which happen to have identical interpretations of bible.
You mentioned atrocities from WW2, but that’s not being done today.
14000 dead in Donbas from "nazis". Its not nailing babies to trees by the tongue atrocities, but it still counts.
pre-2022 conflict were due to the Donbas War, which Russia also instigated.
Donbas: You nazis suck, we want autonomy.
Ukraine: You die, terrorist insurgents.
Russia: Ok we help protect you. Weapons. Advisors.
I don't see it as Russia instigating.
It is pretty clear that they are pulling in many arguments to justify their expansionist wishes.
Strongly disagree. Peace terms were always reasonable. US puppets that hate ethnic Russians no longer deserve to rule over them, and it is far better for populations if they separate peacefully.
invading Ukraine to “denazify” them makes sense in this context?
A return to 2013 Ukrainian rulership is best for Ukraine, even if EU only wants to support the post 2014 nazi rulership to continue antagonizing Russia with terrorism and deprived trade from Russia. EU/IMF did not genuinely want a trade deal with Yanukovych. Just to string him along to fuel CIA protests. Nazis with an EU trade deal while EU isolates itself form Russia and keeps threatening it is not good for anyone, least of which Ukraine puppet control. Continued division and impoverishment of Europe to be manipulated further by US, and who should have a hard time with their schizophrenic support of pro nato nazis and suppression of anti nato nazis. Trump's master success so far is getting colonies to divide themselves further from Russia, and in case of Canada, from China too.
In current peace talks, denazification is not a topic. Only demilitarization. Neutrality. Nazis without rabid EU stupidity backing them are less dangerous, and future elections, including banned parties, might return a Yanukovych type, out of anger for what a failure the nazis were.
If ukraine was allowed to install nato weapons, usa would use that to nuke russia, then go to attack china, and then the bezos and zuck and other creatures would enslave and kill every single nonwesterner
But westerners want that because they are inhuman racist monsters
When the euros say "russia will invade europe and kill us all" they're doing projection, they're projecting their own cololonialist fantasies onto those they want to kill, to make up a reason for their rabid crusader behavior
Ah yes, NATO is all about Ukraine “defending themselves”. That must be why NATO has a history of provocative actions against other nations and lying. Real trustworthy
Sounds like you've been guzzling the anti-freeze vodka again, dumbass Yuri. Ruzzia is a third world shithole country, where even your women hate you, since they're all trying to marry westerners. If only all your people didn't have to squat over open latrine pits, maybe they could read a newspaper in civilized comfort, and realize just how much Pootang the Tinyman has stiffed them. Ruzzia will never get back it's foreign investments and it will be paying reparations forever. You will stay a peasant forever. Which is well deserved :)
If you want Russia to stop growing so fast, give it peace.
Then go back home.
Nobody wants to go to Russia, for any reasons, it's like Hell crying about being threatened by invasion.
Otherwise, Russia's invasion puts it in a position that threatens Europe, the Europe with an economy, what, 20x their size?
And a Europe that actually understands modern technology?
You're throwing rocks at a tiger and screaming for it to go back to sleep, the moment the tiger wakes will be entertaining to watch.
Ruble is best performing currency over the year.
That's a very specific timeframe you've got there. Oh, that's why.
The ruble is worth less than a handful of shit. Fuck off orc.
Just one more year bro. I swear bro, one year and russia will collapse bro. I know bro, ive been saying this shit for five years now. But bro… this year i feel it.
Every single “source given” just links back to articles from the same “news source”. Yeah, really reliable article. About as reliable as Fox News….
Now who holds the cards?
The USA has 30 trillion in debt, but its ok since they just print more money.
When has it not been in a free fall? But it's still hanging in there.