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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago

Props to Benn Jordan for doing this a year ago on a slightly lower budget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DOd4RLNeT4

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Coming here because I saw how downvoted this post was on Reddit lol. I love that it's triggering the Elon fanboys.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe it was downvoted because of Mormon weirdo Mark Rober and not the content itself?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Based on comments it's the Tesla stans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah don't get me wrong I'm not a Mark Rober fan and I don't think he's making this video because he's anti Elon even, he's just making it because it's popular to hate Elon and Tesla at the moment. It happens to be a good thing, but unfortunately, I think Mark isn't doing it out of virtue.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Who cares about virtue? I just want to be entertained by Tesla cheaping out and then telling drivers it's a premium car brand that will pay for itself with robo taxi services.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think anything Rober does is out of virtue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Is he a weirdo for being Mormon, or something else?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bonus deep dive about using LiDAR to map out space mountain

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t exactly call that a deep dive.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The channel is for 5-year-olds, they would drown in a real deep dive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Easy: „If you want to learn more check out our second channel where we explain in depth how we approached this topic, the technology used and what we learned.“

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Im shocked Disney isnt thowing a fit over that. Their legal team must be busy this week.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Getting into a legal battle with an immensely popular YouTuber would probably cost them a lot more in bad publicity than they would reasonably make from a lawsuit. I guarantee someone at Disney is doing or already has done the calculations.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Insane that the telsa drives into spaces its unsure of. So dangerous

[–] RamblingPanda 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the thing that got me. I would have issues spotting that child through the fog as well, but I wouldn't have sped through it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

A Tesla stopped for me at a crosswalk and I insisted, you go on ahead, I ain’t trusting Musk Tech with my life.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What makes you think it’s unsure?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True its not unsure but it should be. If it doesn't have good viability it should have slowed down or disengaged auto pilot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In fog it doesn't know it doesn't have good visibility.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Sure, but their sensors will detect if you aren’t paying enough attention and report back to Tesla headquarters to get the lawyers ready before you can even get out of your car.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Self-driving in general has been overhyped by grifter tech bros like Elon and really shows the current limits of ML. Today, ML models are basically fuzzy, probabilistic functions that map inputs to outputs and are not capable of actual reasoning. There is a long tail of scenarios where a self-driving car will not generalize properly (i.e., will kill people). Throwing increasingly more data and compute at it won’t suddenly make it capable of reasoning like a human. Like other ML use cases, self-driving is a cool concept that can be put to good use under the right conditions, and can even operate mostly without human supervision. However, anyone claiming it’s safe to let today’s “self-driving” cars shuttle humans around at high speeds with no additional safeguards in place either has an unrealistic understanding of the tech or is a sociopath.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

IMHO, this was really a video about camera-only automatic emergency braking, not autonomous driving.

Lots of cars have AEB now since a lot of regulators are requiring it, but most use a combination of cameras and ultrasonic sonic. The top-of-the-line systems have LiDAR, cameras, and ultrasonic.

Tesla’s sensors lack redundancy. If the cameras are obstructed or can’t distinguish shapes, the vehicle can’t fall back to another system.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I’ve been shit-talking Elon’s (absolutely boneheaded) decision to intentionally eschew system-redundancy in systems that are critically responsible for human life for years now. Since he never missed an opportunity to show off his swastikar in MANY of his previous videos, I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web. But I’m pleasantly surprised to see that this video is a solid (WELL-justified) smear. 👌

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Thank god it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors, much cheaper to repair the front this way

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Ahah Tesla is like a 2000s knock-off of good existing technology

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla's Full Self Driving?

(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

The other car only used emergency breaking, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don't cross the street.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

"Full shelf driving" still needs to be in quotes. It's a feature's brand name for a product that doesn't actually have full self driving capabilities.

Try not to carry water for their attempted, repeated lie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

All the other cars he tested stopped just fine. Who cares about fiddling with modes and shit.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I am not a fan of Tesla/Elon but are you sure that no human driver would fall for this?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Lets assume that a human driver would fall for it, for sake of argument.

Would that make it a good idea to potentially run over a kid just because a human would have as well, when we have a decent option to do better than human senses?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The road runner thing seems a bit far fetched yeah. But there were also tests with heavy rain and fog which were not passed by Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The road runner thing isn’t far fetched. Teslas have a track record of t-boning semi trucks in overcast conditions, where the sky matches the color of the truck’s container.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Part of the problem is the question of who is at fault if an autonomous car crashes. If a human falls for this and crashes, it's their fault. They are responsible for their damages and the damages caused by their negligence. We expect a human driver to be able to handle any road hazards. If a self driving car crashes who's fault is it? Tesla? They say their self driving is a beta test so drivers must remain attentive at all times. The human passenger? Most people would expect a self driving car would drive itself. If it crashes, I would expect the people that made the faulty software to be at fault, but they are doing everything they can to shift the blame off of themselves. If a self driving car crashes, they expect the owner to eat the cost.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

All the other cars he tested stopped just fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

That is a completely legitimate question. That you are downvoted says a lot about the current state of Lemmy. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the Musk hate, but it looks like a nuanced discussion on topics where Nazi-Elon is involved is currently not possibe.

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