This feels weird, but I agree with you, internet stranger.
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Compare LA to Phoenix AZ and you go from the description of all the things the green text says are aren't true to them being reality. 4 Chan is probably filled with people from conservative shitholes hating life because they live in a conservative shithole
This has nothing to do with right/left political inclinations. In the real world people just associate based on things they have in common.
Yeah, this is what people don't get. Anon goes out in NY and sees that. Go out in Bumfuck, Utah and this are very different
Hey, I live in Utah, and it's not bad. Sure, there are a bunch of Trumpers, but most of the people are chill. Even in the middle of nowhere.
You can find good and bad areas everywhere. If you avoid the worst of it, pretty much everywhere is livable with people.
I imagine it can vary wildly within both of those cities. I guarantee that both cities you mention have areas where everything OP said holds true.
I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't raise kids in conservative shit holes. What if they are gay?
I don't recommend them at all, conservative shitholes I mean unless maybe you are very well off and have passive income. Living in a place where people are basically ready to freak out over someone saying good morning as they pass and all the weird hate and suspicion towards everyone around them isn't healthy. It's like a culture built around having an enemy freaks out when there's no immediate external one and looks for enemies within.
Maybe it'll be gay people maybe it won't necessarily be that bad for them, hate culture is fickle and not based around logic, sometimes it's something of a comfort blanket for some people. Some people respond to be controlling and and others that claim to be in power and project control. People who grow up under "My house, my rules" type of homes grow up and vote for people who project that aura.
Yeah other comments have a point that you can run into assholes anywhere, but politics most definitely shape communities no matter how much people say they don't. Redlining shaped entire communities for over half a century, to pretend a neighborhood built around being held down because it's primarily an out group is suddenly going to have a drastically different way of life after some policies stopped is moronic. That's only one thing that causes a culture built around stratification, there's plenty of problems. Sometimes the damage is already done and actual policies need to be done to reverse it or else people are just stuck. Some policies are hard to really get into detail and convey just exactly how damaging they are especially to people who were never even taught those policies exist to begin with.
I know that this isn't exactly what you were getting into, I guess I just wanted to dig a bit further into my points seeing as how people are still interested days later. Getting into the politics of it requires some knowledge of history. Basically political landscapes shape culture for better or worse
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I was anticipating his clarity once the Psilocybin wore off.
Some say that he's still high to this day.
just don't let that happen and you'll be fine. your existence occurs inside your head. make it a pleasant place.
It's a shame that this is fake gay
Life in a walkable city
Perhaps outside is so nice because all the haters are locked inside 4chan doing that annoying fucking captchca over and over.
As cliched as it is, attitude makes a difference in how you view the world around you. Two people seeing the exact same thing can have vastly different views. Hell, the same person can have different views on different days or hours of the same day. Humans are like that.
To your point we literally don’t see the same things. Humans only “see” a tiny thumbnail of the world at a time even that is a blurry recreation of what reality is actually doing or happening in front of you.
It’s filling in the gaps in real time by old memories and splotched together assumptions. Now add to that other humans together in a group. You’re gonna eventually agree on a reality that you can communicate about and make decisions etc.
The internet has inserted itself in the evolutionary path of humans and inadvertently all life forms on earth. It’s like an alien entity that controls human minds like a fungus would.
This is 100% true 50% of the time
In only 25% of the world
so 12,5% chance of this being the case? still not bad
i gotta know where this guy lives because that sounds awesome
Sounds like most major US cities.
Edit: or college towns, even.
Yeah you need to be in a high cost of living area, not in rural hell.
In Brazil, maybe the only thing not as accurate is that here everyone is cute and handsome (the gostosa energy)
Um, pretty much everywhere? Just avoid the upper-class areas and you'll see essentially what OP sees.
✅ Fake
✅ Gay
It’s true
So "outside" is real? I don't understand. Can someone give me a download like or something?
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The way I see it 4chan is filled with people who have untreated mental health issues. I personally have Anxiety and the world seems dark and miserable (granted im also trans and surrounded by Transphobes).
Being trans in 2025 must feel like being Will Smith in Enemy of the State.
Im also a strong unionist and Anarcho-Syndicalist, im basically playing life like its Wolfenstein on the mein leben difficulty (the hardest one)
Pretty much
Shhh. Let them stay at home, I don't need the competition.
Competition? You may be giving them too much credit.
this is why i have no pity for incels
It's rough to be an awkward teenager, struggling to find the kind of mutual affection that you're biologically programmed to crave. Like, bares mentioning that the OG incel was a woman complaining how much difficulty she had getting laid. And one of her primary complaints was how clumsy, prudish, and superficial her male peers proved themselves to be.
The 4chan crowd decided to Rule 30 her blog and insist this was an exclusively cis-het male problem. And then the right-wing outrage machine keyed in on it and decided this was a problem caused by the villanious cartel of liberal feminists, who were all trying to groom eligible bachelorettes into man-hating lesbians with hairy legs and pink hair. And now we've got an entire industry dedicated to telling men "Go to the gym, eat meat, be extremely misogynist, and vote for Donald Trump so you can have your dream of a 10/10 stacked Tradwife hottie in the suburbs with 12 kids".
"Incel" has gone from a feminist critique of unrealistic expectations of teen dating into a reactionary consumerist fantasy.
fair enough. news to me.
i still have no pity.
Yeah and this is where I fall into the "listen if you're someone who can't get laid that hates that these reactionary assholes have made difficulty getting laid into "this" I'm sympathetic. But incels as they actually are have no sympathy from me.
Touch grass, work on your mental health, get a hobby, start participating in society in a constructive manner and start showering.
One of the things that gets to me is how often they mock the advice that actually helps. And I get it, I've struggled with mental illness and mocked helpful advice. But fucking hell dude so often the reason they can't get laid is that nobody wants to spend time with them in any capacity.
Touch grass, work on your mental health, get a hobby, start participating in society in a constructive manner and start showering.
All good advice on its face. But they do call it "Getting Lucky" for a reason. You can be the perfect specimen and still strike out (with people you're attracted to in kind). Past that, celibacy and the resulting depression/insecurity has an impact on your mental health even if you're getting all the other boxes checked. "Don't be a fucking sad sack if you want to get laid!" is easy advice to give and hard advice to live. Doubly so when you're a moody anxious teenager, already.
And it is this hyper-individualist "fuck you, I've got mine" attitude is a big part of what drives people off the deep end. The Mean Girls tier prejudice stretching to naked hostility that single people experience - particularly as they get older - is just the other side to the incel coin.
One of the things that gets to me is how often they mock the advice that actually helps.
There's a degree of selection bias. The loudest, proud-boy-est incels are inevitably the ones that have made a brand of the identity and are trying to sell PUA bullshit. There are plenty of people who struggle with "good advice" in silence. And plenty more who take it, improve, start meeting people, and stop being incels.
But the Self-Help industrialization of dating is often flooded with the same simple "Why can't you just be normal?" tips and tricks that seem ignore how many perfectly normal people are still incredibly lonely. Meeting new people can be scary, putting yourself out on an emotional line is emotionally taxing, finding the time and money to date is often a luxury, and plenty of people who initially fall for one another discover - sometimes painfully - that they aren't compatible.
When you trivialize love, you aren't being helpful. Your cavalier attitude towards other people's pain can even be abusive. Is it any surprise that a person who feels mocked and insulted isn't fun to be around?
The issue is not that we anons are fat. The issue is our personality. That is why we do not have qt3.14gf.
Its too bad there isn't a gym for one's personality.
There is, it’s going outside and talking to people. Also therapy.
Talking to people doesn't make me a better person. It makes me mask and feel further alienation. (Though yes, being completely alone is awful so I still socialize.)
And I can't talk to a therapist for many many reasons.
The first day at the gym is the hardest, but without any other context I will take your word for it. For most people, though, that is the way.
For me, I’m pretty ADHD with definitely some other shit mixed in and I’ve just come to accept that many people are not worth it. That said, so many people are and it just takes finding them. I was lucky to not get traumatized into masking as a child, though, and while it makes working with emotionally bankrupt engineers tricky I can at least survive out in the world in the context of making friends.
I’m curious what a “personality gym” would do for you, as you brought it up. At some point you’d be aiming to take those skills outside, right, so would it be in preparation for the going out and talking to people part? Or would you like to have a personality in isolation and at that point why the gym?
I suppose I'd like to have the happy carefree loving energy that people naturally gravitate towards and it to be earnest (rather than it being a mask or something). I'd want to be a normie.
Even more I wish to basically be a himbo. People love himbos. But I'd have to become dumber, less judgemental, and more confident in myself. Someone who believes in astrology/spirituality because everyone else around them believes in it. Someone who's not anxious about politics all the fucking time.
Like, I want to be a different and happier person. Maybe its a "grass is always greener" situation.
Hell yea dude, I so 100% understand that.
When I found that I was being judgemental and closed(and a bit of a stick in the mud, if I’m honest) I just tried to practice doing more “yes, and” stuff. It may be different for you but for me I realized that a lot of what was holding me back was plain old insecurity. I was simply afraid of being vulnerable to that level and so terrified of the chance someone would try to use any error I might make against me that I would get defensive when someone felt at least safe enough to try to give some feedback.
Being authentic is hard at first because it requires being vulnerable and, friend, I so get why that’s easier said than done. I’d worry less about being something so set-in-stone like a himbo and more about remembering that you’re allowed to be more than a mold filler. Like when you see a character who’s normally a little silly step aside with another and drop some calm wisdom and you go “oh, this person is more than their trope” or when the normally crazy barbarian type character shows softness when it’s needed. It’s situational, ya know? It’s not masking to turn down one knob and turn up the other when it’s appropriate.
The best part is that even if you strike out making friends or whatever you can at least say that you were a good, authentic person during it all. No one can ever take that away from you but you, and you control you.
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It’ll be hard at first, to take what may feel like such a big risk, but I believe in ya and I can tell you genuinely care so you’ll get it for sure. Start small and build up and you’ll get there sooner than you think :)
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