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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

Fuck anti-vaxxers. They put everyone and their children in danger because they believe US social media spreading "but muh freedumb" across the planet.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, all children should be allowed in schools.

The schools can then vaccinate the unvaccinated ones.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean yeah thats how it was with the really critical ones when i was a kid some 20 years ago. Vaccinations need to be something that is discussed in school again, because apparently people have forgotten why they exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago

They need to show kids pictures of people with polio. Apparently that’s the only way they can learn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Sounds like an easy solution,
but the Constitution states that parents have the exclusive right to rise their child according to their will.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

That's true. But that doesn't mean you can violate the rights of others, by bringing disease into public schools. If you want to be a plague carrier, you can do it in your own commune.

Article 48

Parents shall have the right to rear their children in accordance with their own convictions. Such upbringing shall respect the degree of maturity of a child as well as his freedom of conscience and belief and also his convictions.

https://www.sejm.gov.pl/prawo/konst/angielski/kon1.htm

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Whose constitution? The Polish one?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

No, it doesn't. The supreme Court has mentioned very nebulous and undefined parental rights and some shitheel introduced an agreement about it that failed, but that's it. Parental rights aren't a thing and shouldn't be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

In the US, right? Well, that does not prevent the states, if the elected representatives cared for what they did and the future of their country and fellow citizens, to impose a rulling stating that, unless medically attested for an impediment from health reasons, no child can enroll in any school, unless properly and fully vaccinated.

Paring this with the legal obligation to enroll every single child in school and making it a criminal offense if not observed by parents/guardians, would make minds change.

But the entire country would have to pass a centralized registration obligation of every single child, in order to be recognized as a citizen and, again, make it a crime if parents do not comply.

Hey, if my backwater country managed to do this in the 50's and earlier, it should not be that much of a challenge to the mighty and modern US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Cool, which amendment is that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

This sets very dangerous precedent for people who can’t get vaccinated because of health conditions.

One of the main points of everyone who can getting vaccinated is to protect those who are to vulnerable to get vaccinated themselves

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago

No. If the legislator has some degree of good sense, they will write an exception where it is stated that medically documented conditions that prohibit vaccination are exempt of this demand.

My country has this exact same system. An unvaccinated child can not be enrolled in public schools. However, if such state is medically documented stemming from some health condition, that child can be enrolled and their special status is added to their student file, to preclvent possible future bad actors to take on a role they have no credit for.

Now, a personal anecdote: I went to school with a girl that was unvaccinated, due to a specific alergy to a component in vaccines, a preservative. Her parents would annually present a fresh letter from their doctor attesting her condition, when renewing her enrollment in school. Nonetheless, one year, there was a vaccine rally at the school and someone tried to pull the argument nobody could be exempt. To worsen things, everything was done unknowingly to parents. That girl called her parents and they made a scene, showing up with police in tow. It was a veritable shit show.