What a fucking clown show.
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Wait, this article is insane. Not the part about Signal, not the part about accidentally inviting a journalist, not the part that it's real, but how intelligent the people in the chat actually sound. What a joke they perform on live TV acting all dumb for their voters to eat up
It always has been. Former NC Representative Jeff Jackson relayed as much on his Youtube channel that the same people that were yelling and acting like meetings were direct to television airings of Jerry Springer were calm and collected in private, without cameras. Sadly, that kind of candid information reveal is in short supply since his resignation.
Besides my initial impression that "this is all illegal," practically a given with any article about the executive branch these days, what I was most struck by was the fact that it wasn't one step above "let's bomb yemen lol XD."
Hegseth was the only one who sounded like an edge lord with the "loathing" and "PATHETIC" comments.
Here's the sequel, by the way: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5211867-hegseth-says-nobody-was-texting-war-plans-after-group-chat-breach/
Here's what Hegseth said about actual journalist and editor-in-chief of the highly-regarded The Atlantic:
Hegseth also called Goldberg “a deceitful and highly discredited, so-called journalist who’s made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again.”
Remember when Rudy Giuliani butt dialed the press while planning a crime? How are these people in charge?!?
Repubs are dumber than dogshit.
wwwwhoa that is crazy.
At about 1:55, I checked X and searched Yemen. Explosions were then being heard across Sanaa, the capital city.
I went back to the Signal channel. At 1:48, “Michael Waltz” had provided the group an update... Not long after, Waltz responded with three emoji: a fist, an American flag, and fire... “Steve Witkoff” responded with five emoji: two hands-praying, a flexed bicep, and two American flags.
Modern warfare is coordinated and celebrated with emojis on Signal.
Remember when the Republicans had one investigation after another about Hillary's private email server, even though nothing ever happened, previous Republican SoSs had done the same thing, and EVERY Republican investigation found she did nothing wrong?
Now the Republicans have done something a million times more dangerous, did it on an unsecure platform, and even incompetently invited a fucking reporter to read it all.
This is the chance to treat Republicans EXACTLY the same way they treat Democrats. EVERY Democrat should bite into this like a hungry dawg, and NEVER let go. Bring it up constantly, Gorilla Glue this to Hegseth, Vance, Gabbard, and the rest of those MAGA Traitors. They need to hear about, and be asked about this every single day, all day, for as long as they hold office.
And Dems should NEVER give up their demands that these people be terminated and prosecuted for their egregious breach of security. Say it so much that even we get sick of it. It works for them, and theirs is all propaganda. Why shouldn't we do it right back, when the accusations are 100% TRUE?
Right, if they were using actual government communication methods, this wouldn’t probably would have been prevented. But when you consider yourself above following policy, when you think you’re the smartest, this is what happens
Gift Article indeed
This is the incompetent you get for implementing DUI hiring practices.
Dumbfuck republicans gooners are hand wave this clusterfuck away because republicans are dumbfuck gooners.
Almost certainly much handwaving will be done. Any questions likening it Hilary Clinton's email fiasco will be framed as "ridiculous" or "fake news". They may even try and arrest the journalist and try pin the whole thing on him.
In a fascist empire there are no repercussions for planning genocide, just for doing it badly.
Trump is going to say it was on purpose, for some stupid reason.
This is just another aspect of the conviction these people all share that the rules do not apply to them. And it is a perfect demonstration as to why no one with that attitude should ever be allowed to serve in the government.
Also, my use of the term "serve" was inappropriate. None of these people are serving anyone or anything except for their personal interests and their egos.
Do you want to create more terrorists, Trump? Because this is how you create terrorists.
Why are we bombing Yemen again? The Houthis are like one of two groups who are actually providing real assistance to the victims of the Palestinian genocide
We should be sending the Houyhis weapons. They're making great use of the little they have, but certainly they could use more.
You just said it. You already know why one side is getting bombed and the other isnt. In the most polite way possible, dont be dense. You know and so do i.
This is politics my friend. And not even good politics. No use worrying about things like casualties or logic or efficiency.
Hell, we threw out sensible foreign influence months ago. When we are tarrifing and threatening invasion of our closest allies, where is there real room for the lives of random muslims in some desert? They mean nothing.
We have a mandate now.
Nice piece, but the author clearly doesn't understand encryption.
If you dont care about anonymity or availability, Signal is a fine place to discuss confidential topics like diplomacy or war. Encryption works, and open source tools are the most secure ones
Edit: they should probably run a private server, though. Just to make sure the userspace is limited somewhat and doesn't include literally anyone in the world.
Signal is not a suitable venue for hosting national security discussions. It's all laid out in the article that it goes beyond encryption.
Information about an active operation would presumably fit the law’s definition of “national defense” information. The Signal app is not approved by the government for sharing classified information. The government has its own systems for that purpose. If officials want to discuss military activity, they should go into a specially designed space known as a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF—most Cabinet-level national-security officials have one installed in their home—or communicate only on approved government equipment, the lawyers said. Normally, cellphones are not permitted inside a SCIF, which suggests that as these officials were sharing information about an active military operation, they could have been moving around in public. Had they lost their phones, or had they been stolen, the potential risk to national security would have been severe.
The tldr is that the endpoint is insecure. These discussions should not be done on a mobile device, it should not be possible to participate in or view the contents of the discussion out in the open, and it should not even be possible to accidentally invite 3rd parties that were not cleared.
This article goes further in displaying that participants are not adhering to data retention standards, either, to no surprise.
It's a fascinating article, and really is a revealing example of how profoundly inept this regime truly is.
Well obviously nobody should be using personal devices for this. Thats not an issue with Signal.
Its the same issue as Trump using his personal cell phone's torch to illuminate a top secret document at a dark-lit party in Florida while he was showing off his Intel to a foreign diplomat (lots of things wrong with this, but note that pointing the torch at the document necessarily means pointing the camera at the document )
So what did you see?
They want to bomb Yemen, basically
So what did you see?
They want to bomb Yemen, basically
And "hate having to bail out the EU again".
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Fun fact, if you click on the article, the subheading tells you even with their paywall
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans
U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
Also if you were to go to
You can read the full article
The incompetence is astounding and perpetual.