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[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 125 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Trump is doing this to distract media attention from the biggest fuck-up of his administration so far, and there's been a lot.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

the biggest fuck-up of his administration so far

The biggest fuck-up of his administration this week.
His administration is a scandal factory.
They will fuck up and make a mess, and their solution is to make a bigger mess to distract from the one they just made.
What about the bigger mess? Well I guess they'll just have to make an even bigger mess to cover that one up.
Rinse and repeat.

[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

Thus solving the problem once and for all!

[–] Zahtu@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

So, what do you think, the biggest mess will be end of the Line? I for myself am betting on declaring war onto another Country. Or nuclear missiles. Whatever, we are fucked 🤷‍♂️

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

At this point I'm not sure that there is an end of the line.
This has been the case since he took office in 2017, we're 8 years in now and every week he outdoes himself.
He kept creating scandal after scandal for 4 years when he wasn't in office, and still got reelected.
This isn't stopping until he's room temperature. Hopefully the fact that he refuses to exercise, has an excess of presenting dementia symptoms, Eats McDonald's for every meal, and has a stimulant addiction, catches up to him sooner rather than later.

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My first thought too. The timing is just too perfect.

My second thought? This means that Trump's team probably has executive orders just waiting in the wings, since they know how this all works. The only thing needed to supplant even awful news cycles are even worse news cycles.

My third thought? This means every time Team Trump royally messes up something, our only reward will be Team Trump doing something even worse, because it's the only move they have, ever.

Until we're all dead by their or our own hands, presumably.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Flood the zone with shit.

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Well, destroying democracy is pretty distracting, so kudos, I guess.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That we know. That likely wasn't the only signal chat group these idiots were using , and they probably still are.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes perhaps we should first require military communications required everyone involved be identified and verified, hmm?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Oh. Ok. I'll sit down then. Not like he'd actually do anything this time.

Right?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It seems like the biggest military intelligence fuck up in recent memory. Not just his administration.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 97 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Welcome to the United States of Arstotzka

Cause no trouble.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Words you can hear. "Παπερσ"

And when that horn blows and you have to take out your rifle and blast'em.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Call your local & state officals about this. The federal government does not run elections. It's the state and local officals that do even for federal office. They are the ones who chose to follow or not follow a blatantly illegal order

Trump is threatening to pull unrelated federal funding if they don't, but he's been pulling funding for many states anyways for zero reason. Make sure your local & state officals know you'll have their back if they don't bow down

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The US system is so weird, federal elections are handled at a lower level of power and differently depending on which state you live in, it makes no sense. You guys need an independent body handling federal elections so everyone's vote is handled the same way no matter where they live... And paper ballots, fucking hell you guys need to go back to paper ballots.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 28 points 2 weeks ago

I think if we get through this, we'll look back at this in horror.. for about 60 years, and then we'll have a crop of neo-trumpists because no one ever seems to learn anything.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Shall we sow stars on our clothes as well?

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Only if you want them to sprout.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pink triangles for the queer folk

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If this isn't your line for outright riots America then I struggle to think of what is.

[–] FamiNES@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Problem is, when the riots do eventually start, there will be no going back. One way or another this will be a completely different country in probably less than a year.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The bigger problem is when the riots start so does martial law. That is the final step according to project 2025.

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[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Constitution leaves the matter of election of electors to the states.

[–] drthunder@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here's my general summary of why this is an issue: the US has been denying people the right to vote since day 1. You had to own land to vote in 1788. Half the country seceded and started a civil war that killed more of our citizens than any war since, over the right to own people. The 15th amendment was passed in 1870 to make it so you can't deny Black people the right to vote, but places made it happen anyway. They made it so you had to pass a "literacy test" with intentionally ambiguous instructions, or pay a poll tax, or one of your grandparents had to have the ability to vote (afaik, the origin of the phrase "grandfathered in").

These were all legal until the 1960s. Lots of people here have parents who were alive before legislation was passed to end Jim Crow. Without that, the racists that be turned to the War on Drugs, because lots of places take away your right to vote if you've been convicted of a felony. They started passing voter ID laws and closing down DMVs in areas with lots of black people and reducing their hours. A politician in Wisconsin bragged after the 2016 election that these laws here threw the state to Trump. They've also started banning giving food and water to people in line to vote and throwing out mail-in votes that show up after election day.

This isn't about election security and it never has been; voter fraud has never changed an election in the country's history. The real election fraud is in suppressing people's votes and fucking with voting machines (2004) and having allies in positions of power to throw the election your way (2000). There's more than that too, but it's a tangent.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean I would argue the whole system of having to show up in person to a place to vote on a non-holiday day and wait in a long line is in of itself a way to stop poorer people from voting. I've lived in a state with only mail in voting for my whole life and as result we have some of the highest voter turn out. It makes sense the Republicans want to do everything they can to to alter that as the harder they make it for poorer people to vote the better their odds of winning are.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The voter stealer wants fix elections to prevent further vote thefts. Irony.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Less of an overhaul, more of a keelhaul

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hear we go guys. Hold the line!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Huh? We are presented with a choice between doing something and the end of democracy. Way I see it, its the system's fault for putting bad choices in front of me, and the choices are, uh.. equivalent, according to my internet sources. Maybe I'll sit it out again.

/s for the gifted triggered ones

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

So? The idea itself is not inherently bad. If I want to vote in Germany I go to the local polling station, show my ID (proof if citizenship) and hand over my voting documents (so I can only vote once, also the volunteers will mark me on a list) and I vote. And no, I don't have to register to vote.

Your problem is that your common way of identifying is your damn drivers license and not an ID card like in nearly every other country.

Not defending this big, orange, walking, talking and shaking with his little hands, asshole. Just saying, not all of your problems are caused by him. Many of them are inherent to your political system.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, without any context or respect to history this will be just fine. Lol

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[–] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Doesn't most of the world already work like this? I have to identify myself to vote in my country, it's the obvious way to prevent people from voting more than one time.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The key is what id would be acceptable.

They'll raise the bar until only ids most people (they don't like) don't have and they have already destroyed the public service so getting one will ve very very hard and/or expensive

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I live in a country where every citizen automatically receives a government id at the age of 12. We have to bring that id when we go to vote, but even if I were to lose the card at the worst possible time, there are contingency measures to allow me to still cast my vote. The idea is to get as many people as possible to vote, the id card greatly facilitates this process, but it's not used as a tool to keep people from voting.

In the usa (and the uk, and maybe other countries as well), citizens are not automatically granted an id card. Instead they have to acquire + maintain some accepted means of identifying themselves if they want to vote. And there some Americans saw a great opportunity: what if they made it so that certain minority groups would have a statistically harder time acquiring and maintaining identification that was deemed acceptable? And what if the state government could arbitrarily purge voter lists based on data mined information? The voter id requirements are used not only for facilitating the voting process, but also for suppressing undesired votes.

If you want some examples of usa voter suppression: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

[–] ptu@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah I don’t get it either. Every election I voted in I’ve had to have id. It’s been like this for a long time and it hasn’t shifted so that we need proof of ethnicity or some other bs people here are suggesting will happen next.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are people really not aware of the issues with voter ID laws? Do we really need to go over this basic shit again?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

What are these issues? Every other country in the world ids voters.

I'm not Trump fan by any means but it's hard to argue against voter ID. Americans in general seem to live in 3rd world when it comes to IDs with your social security number shit etc.

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[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Gonna be proof of Republican Party soon

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

What are elections for if not selecting your favorite republican ~^/s^~

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[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)
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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

then comes proof of ethnicity or something

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

This will get shot down faster than there can even be controversy. Founding fathers would be rolling in their graves, and there‘s no way the Supreme Court can squeeze that kind of interpretation out of the Constitution.

That being said, it may give some state legislators cover to go with it.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Oh you sweet, sweet summer child.....

This has been a GOP wet dream for years. States and GOP legislators are going to cram this through by any means necessary. The Supreme Court has used medieval text from completely other countries in order to justify rulings and have openly said precedent doesn't mean shit to them. These people will cram this through and smile while doing it.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Here we go. I guess congress Rs will bend, while the Ds just hold signs again. Thanks america, I hope this is what you wanted. Now bend over and spread those tight cheeks.

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