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[–] [email protected] 210 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Maybe an unpopular opinion here, but I feel like posting AI-generated ghibli-style pictures is hugely disrespectful to Miyazaki and all the values he stand for. Miyazaki said once he feels "AI Art" is an "insult to life itself" - and I have to agree, since it strips all the human element art is supposed to represent

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 months ago

Just put the shitpost in the bag

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not to be controversial, but genocide is bad

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to be obvious, but bears shit in woods

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Bears, beets, battlestar galactica

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

That one IS a controversial opinion unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago

We can simultaneously agree that what’s happening is bad and disrespectful, and still find it funny :3

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ok... but is the picture art??? I don't think anyone would try to argue it is. Miyazaki was specifically talking about how no algorithm can produce art, and I agree.

What makes this screenshot funny is the human element, the performance! It's all ridiculous.

Glorified Matrix Algebra: [Presents an image of a caked-up gnome]

Internet goblin: "Make it's butt even bigger."

Glorified Matrix Algebra: "Sorry, that's a bridge too far for me."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is the original image art? Who's to say.

But turn that image into a meme and it does become art. And that's wonderful.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago
  1. he said that about any ai art though and he is right.
  2. he didn't say it was an insult to him
  3. This is a ai generated gnomes butt on a shitpost community, not art
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

This is making fun of the fad. Calm down jeez

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds to me like Miyazaki needs to lighten up.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds to me that you need to become a bit more human and empathic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

But daddy elon told me empathy was bad

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Come on. Public figures need to be able to deal with satire and mockery, and this isn't even a deep cut. Besides, have you seen how Miyazaki treats his family? That man has no empathy or humanity to offer his peers either. He's a stuck up old man that would do well to come down to earth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

No this ain't about satire and mockery. This is about preserving human creativity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You can't be relaxed about things on lemmy, you have to have an anger boner about anything and everything. Especially if it's what the groupthink™ has decided we have to hate here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I kinda came here to say this. It really doesnt feel right doing that to Miyazaki after all the passion he put into the world. This is a slap to the face no matter the context. It is against his every wish.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

slap right in the disappointingly unreenlarged buns

(sorry)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That quote is taken totally out of context

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It's been a bit since I saw the original behind the scenes vid or whatever it was, what was the context?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

https://youtu.be/ngZ0K3lWKRc is the original context. I'd say it fits what I said perfectly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Is digital art itself bad, because its not the human doing all of it?

Is it ableist to not define AI art as art, when handicapped people can't perform the same actions?

Does it not create an abundance of art, and thus expands the entire field making it evolve well beyond its current state?

Gate keeping art is silly regardless, you can't stop it. Just be happy you could make people pay for it while you could, like coal shovelers and blacksmiths things change.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Is it ableist to not define AI art as art, when handicapped people can't perform the same actions?

Please reconsider this like of argument in the future, it just comes across as cynical using the disabled for arguments sake. There are plenty of blind/deaf/handicapped/motor impaired/etc people making art of various forms. Deaf musicians. Blind painters. Non-verbal writers.

What makes art, “art” is the human creativity of original thought and intrinsic meaning, even if it is derivative. A jazz beat sampled on a rap track is art because it has social/familial meaning - beat makers often unwittingly share their childhood memories listening to their parent’s music at home. A painter may be influenced by their surreal visions, or the war and horrors they witnessed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Art has soul in it. Ai has no soul.

The end. ^^

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Is digital art itself bad, because its not the human doing all of it?

It is bad primarily because it plagiarizes historical art in order to undermine the professional trade for future artists.

It forecloses art as a career, thereby depriving future generations of evolution in style and professional craft.

Gate keeping art is silly regardless

The gate being constructed fences off professional artists from the revenue their work produced. And in doing so, it defunds the schools and studios where professionals pass their craft from master to apprentice.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If a miserable old man wants to hatekeep an entire art style then he's someone that I can safely and happily disrespect.

Rich people like him do not have feelings that matter, he's wealthy enough to solve real problems but instead he protects his personal legacy and wealth.

Defend capitalism and try to increase the power of the wealthy if you like but I'll always be on the side of people being free to express themselves regardless of the feelings of a rich old man.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where do you draw the line, exactly? AI-generated art doesn't discriminate based on how wealthy the individual whose art it is copying is. Most artists aren't wealthy. Their work is being stolen just as readily as Miyazaki's. The fact that Miyazaki's not using his wealth to help others is completely irrelevant to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You know that thing our collective parents do when they want to win an argument so they just start attacking you for random things you did 6 years ago? That's exactly what this person is doing.

The person above you, I mean.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Humans: "I just can't understand why sentient AI would go rouge, probably something just went wrong with it's programming"

Also humans:

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the hypothetical threat of rogue AIs get's too much attention compared to AIs that are obedient but evil by design.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Submissive and breedable ai

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

go rouge

Leave the bat out of this.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago

"I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The big booty Ghibli styled gnome or not making it's butt even bigger?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Mostly the former, but maybe a bit of the latter

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

I've scrolled through here like four times today, and still the gnomes ass is no larger. WTH is wrong with AI these days?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Literally 1984

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Please put NSFW tag on this...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

If you made it any bigger, it would turn into Plasma.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Has technology reached it’s zenith?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

This is why Miyazaki is so against AI. Man can't handle the junk in the trunk.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Doing the Lord's work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Wow, AI is a coward

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Sir Mix-A-Lot would be utterly dissapointed.

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