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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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kamala Harris, as a da, locked people up and refused parole to keep them as slaves fighting fires.

mod says it's misinfo (probably without fact checking) and removes the comment

update:

idk how I was doing mod abuse

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Look, that's the entire reason I disliked her as VP and as a candidate.

But the words you used, the way you used them do not accurately represent the facts of the matter.

So, yeah, it's misinformation. When someone bends facts, that's exactly what it is.

Hyperbole being presented as fact is just another form of misinformation.

Since the only action taken was removal of the comment, I can't see any power tripping, just a difference of opinion about the precise definition of what makes up misinformation.

I can't fully say YDI in this case, because you clearly weren't acting in bad faith to break a rule.

But it also isn't a clueless mod either.

It's somewhere in between those two. The comment being removed was a justifiable action. If they'd done anything at all beyond that, it would have been over the line, but they didn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Well, that screen shot does change things to a degree.

However, we have no way of seeing any reports you sent, or any messages with the mods.

Since both of those are cited as reasons for the ban alongside the comments, there's a couple of ifs involved.

If those two reasons are accurate enough, then it would switch it entirely to YDI for the ban alone. You go around fucking with reports, you get banned, and you should be. But, again, nobody here can see that, so that's a giant IF.

If the only factor was a claim of misinformation, I'd call PTB because the mod log does not back up a claim of repeated misinformation. Nor does your user history. The links you've posted, the comments you've made in the last month or so don't have a pattern of misinformation at all, though you do have a habit of hyperbole that might read as pushing an agenda. IMO, that's only a problem if you're going crazy with it, or you're beating the drum in inappropriate communities, and I'm not seeing that happening.

But, because the ban cites behaviors we can't see, it doesn't serve to change my opinion on the original matter of the removal. The removal itself, not power tripping. The ban might be, but it could also be totally justified.

I will say that it is entirely possible that the mod in question could be exaggerating those other reasons, because that kind of thing does happen. But that makes the ban as evidence of power tripping useless.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Disputing the early release of prisoners is different than 'locking people up' and people in her office advocating against early release is something that can be attributed to her because she is ultimately reponsible, but is not the same as her refusing to let them be paroled.

What you said is that she put people into jail and forced them to fight fires, which is not what happened.

What you posted was literally misinformation. YDI.

Also, fuck Kamala Harris.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

as a da, then as ag, she sent people to prison.

she kept them there specifically to exploit their labor.

what I posted was true.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except she didn't keep them there because the effort by her office was denied in court, and her job was to lock people up. She didn't prosecute people with the intent to make them fight fires and she didn't get to deny them parole.

She sucks because of being in favor of shitty laws and being pro punishment for non-violent crime, but this specific thing you said is not accurate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you know I can see how there is some nuance, and how my statements were vague enough to be misinterpreted as misinformation, but the words I chose were true.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

they absolutely were.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She sent them there for crimes

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah the American legal system and prison-industrial-complex are notorious for arresting only criminals and not just anyone off the street for say existing while black.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

like truancy. she's a fucking Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stop diluting the word "Nazi." All it does is water down the meaning and provide cover for the real Nazis.

Being an authoritarian does not make someone a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no, thank you. I'm not going to distinguish between fascist or Nazi, either.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then you're literally just helping them by playing their game of co-opting terms with definite meanings.

Congratulations on helping Nazis. You are part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how you think calling a cop whose excuse is they're just doing their job dilutes the term Nazi for you, but I'm most definitely not helping nazis

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not what a Nazi is. That's an authoritarian. All Nazis are authoritarians but not all authoritarians are Nazis. Nazis didn't and don't do the horrible things they do because they're authoritarians, they do them because they're extremist ideologues; their particular brand of authoritarianism emerges from that ideology.

Authoritarianism, on the other hand, could come from a genuine place of wanting to keep people safe. That doesn't make it right or admirable, but the impetus behind it is not harmful, only the way in which that desire is enacted.

By saying they're the same thing, you're playing their game where Nazis can hide behind the less extreme term.

You can be anti-authoritarian without being needlessly hyperbolic to the detriment of the point you're trying to make.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

she literally locked up undesirables in slave labor prisons under the guise of enforcing the law and just doing her job. this adherence to the law, regardless of true justice, is exactly what made every Nazi, down to the paper pushers, evil, and I won't pull punches just because some of the Nazis held racial animous or were the ones actually operating the gas chambers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Still not a Nazi. You're still pointing to the authoritarian similarities, not the ideological ones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ideologically, most Nazis weren't committed. they still facilitated the injustices.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe you, but even if we accept that as true, it's still authoritarians you have a problem with. You haven't made your case that Kamala is specifically a Nazi, because Nazism is an ideology with specific defining features.

And that's why your post got removed. You're being hyperbolic, because you don't like her, but what you said is nevertheless factually untrue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

what I said in the thread is absolutely true, as is what I said here. your rhetoric mirrors modern neonazis who eschew the title because they aren't a member of a defunct German political party.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bruh, you can't be serious. Saying somebody is not a Nazi doesn't make them a neo-Nazi, even if neo-Nazis say that same thing. neo-Nazis also eat food, and that means people's eating habits mirror those of neo-Nazis! OMG!

Nobody can stop you from believing whatever you want, but that doesn't mean the rest of us are obligated to entertain your personal version of reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bruh, you can't be serious.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... you're proving exactly why YDI.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Well in that case she will have a pace on the current administration

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She didn't send people to prison. The judges did that. She just successfully argued that they should do it. What you posted was not true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

when a da runs for reelection, they do it on their conviction record. you're splitting hairs

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, you are. A person who's job it is to convince judges to put people in jail runs on their record of convincing the judges to do so is ... unsurprising.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

No, this is false. Her job was/is fundamentally to help ensure justice is administered, it is not to convince a judge (or a jury) to put people in jail.

Plenty of AGs have run on not enforcing specific unjust laws.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the legal system.

And yes Kamala was and continues to be a horrible human being. She never would have survived a primary for this reason.

We literally denied Nazis the defense of 'I was just following orders' for good reasons. Just because kamala's actions were slightly less damning doesnt change the fact she made the personal choice to make those arguments in court.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

this is splitting hairs

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Relevant:

In 2014, as overcrowding persisted, a three-judge panel in California ordered the state to make eligible for parole nonviolent prisoners with only two felonies that had served half their sentences. Harris’ lawyers argued early release would harm the prison’s labor program, which included its work program to help fight California’s wildfires. The judges rejected the argument.

Criticism against Harris resurfaced after her announcement for president last month brought heightened scrutiny. In 2014, Harris told BuzzFeed News she was “shocked” to learn about what her lawyers were arguing in court.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

PTB. OPs comments are factually correct, even if they are too unpalatable for a liberal audience to accept. We have to assess politicians by their behaviour, not by their lies, and on that basis Kamala absolutely supports the US prison industrial complex aka slave labor. As do all establishment Democrats, who have helped foster this disgusting industry just as much as the Republicans have.

OPs rhetoric on this is actually very chill, considering.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah OP is trying to be clowned on but all it shows is that the flat.world libs are upset at someone calling out bad people doing bad things.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So what, she is so utterly incompetent that she doesn’t even know what her own lawyers are doing?

Give me a break. There is no way she was not informed at the time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I'm not really here to argue about us politicians, I just felt that as OP didn't provide any sources someone should. I even went with a right leaning newspaper to make it fair to OP.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

PTB, everyone here defending the mods and Harris are foolish.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Libs gonna lib. Their primary concern is violently maintaining power so ofc they gonna support prosecutors, prisons, slave labor, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes those notoriously violent liberals

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

This is nn example of tone censorship... The mods politics and news subs engage in this shit to maintain favourable regime discusions. It is reddit 2.0

Just block those communities and use alternatives that's the entire point of fedi anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ptb.

Also What's with all the downvotes on this post?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The two dozen or so folk on Lemmy who are conditioned to view any criticism of the American Democratic Party as being a Trump supporting fascist.

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