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[-] [email protected] 155 points 3 months ago

To let you skip the article, they are pausing sales to the USA on the base models of the framework 13, presumably because those are their lowest margin models. The two affected SKUs for the moment are the Intel 125H and Ryzen 7640U

[-] [email protected] 100 points 3 months ago

They could just become a European company. I'm just saying.

[-] [email protected] 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Or Canadian. Since they have quite a passionate investor there already

[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Oh, of course, my intent was more "quit the US".

[-] [email protected] 76 points 3 months ago

That's sad , I am seriously considering getting one to support their business model.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

Really sad. This would be one of the first places I was planning to look when I need a new computer

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

The good news is it looks like it is only the 13" systems being paused for now. And they likely can get them going again once they figure out the new tariff reqs and get the new prices integrated on the website.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Pretty much every other laptop manufacturer is going to be hit by the same tariffs

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

If it makes you feel better, no one will go unscathed.

[-] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago

This is pausing US sales only. Misleading title, only affects one country.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

But without the plants and blue water.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It only affects one country, so not that big of a news story.

[-] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago

I would expect a small company like them to be the most vulnerable to tariffs. This might cause them to go out of business.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

They could start selling their inventory to countries they don't sell to yet. Although I'm assuming they're just pausing under the assumption that the tariffs are temporary.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

There are still countries other than the US.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

If the Americans could read, they'd be very upset to read this.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I know this is a joke, but to be fair, a good chunk of Americans are highly educated. It's just that the morons are more motivated to vote (and yes, I see the irony of not voting as a moronic thing to do.)

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago

I got a Framework 13 a couple months ago - it's been awesome so far. I'm happy to support their business model & repairability - it's super awesome.

Sucks for you guys south of the 49th parallel who have to deal with (pay) all these ludicrous tariffs!

[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Just bought my FW13 last month. USA. It's either perfect timing, because tariffs. Or terrible timing, because tariffs. I haven't decided yet.

Love the laptop though!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Waiting on my 13 (ryzen ai 7 350). Hope they don't claw back for a price hike...

[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

Hey Framework, how about sending some laptops down under? I still am not able to buy any from the website here in NZ

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Same here! I have one but can't get components any more because they locked down freight forwarding 🙁

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Canary in the coal mine turns into Standard Operating Procedure.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

During their keynote they said they were largely unaffected 😣

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

That was more than a day ago though. Trump’s lack of prudence ensures that companies can’t plan ahead. That includes the Taiwan based framework.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

They were largely unaffected by the tariffs targeting China, because US trade policy distinguishes between mainland China and Taiwan. Problem was that Trump announced huge tariffs on everyone, including a 32% tariff on Taiwan.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Yah. Like I said. Lack of prudence with plenty of unpredictability on top.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Why not add the tariff to the price? If someone in the US still wants it, they can buy it and pay the tariff.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I assume they will. The problem right now is how volatile and abrupt these policies are. If they make an adjustment now, sell a laptop at that price, and then tomorrow additional tariffs are implemented they may well end up with a loss on that sale to you. The pause is likely just to see where things will stabilize to.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

They presumably assume they'd be selling so little that it wouldn't be worth the trouble.

They'll probably wait out this situation for a while and see what the competition does..

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

By the time they calculate the result on their retail price and update the website the orange will probably change everything again.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

How is pausing sales in one area, rather than just raising prices accordingly, the better business decision? No one is forcing them to sell at a specific price point.

[-] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago

A big problem with Trump’s tariffs isn’t that they exist; it’s that they’re subject to change at any moment. To be clear, they’re idiotic. But no one can invest in anything long term in America right now.

Imagine opening a restaurant in the U.S. right now. Half your kitchen equipment is subject to steel or aluminum tariffs. You don’t know if you can import anything. Or you can wait a year and see how full Trump’s diaper is. He also looks half dead without makeup and might have pissed off the Yakuza (or worse). The smart move is to wait to open your restaurant.

Now imagine any business bigger than a restaurant.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Imagine even a business that is supposed to benefit from tariffs, like garment manufacturing. Previously it wasn't worth it because other countries could do it cheaper. So, now you could set up a garment factory and start making things in the US. You can buy cotton from Texas, spin it into yarn, make that yarn into cloth, do it all from seed to finished garment all in the USA.

But, can you really trust that these tariffs are going to be around for the long haul? If you invest $200k to start making clothing in the US, then Trump, the master negotiator, does a deal with Bangladesh and their tariffs go to zero again there's no way you can compete and you're out $200k.

Even if you're extremely lucky and already had a US-based business that was surviving vs. overseas competition, would now be a good time to ramp up production? Sure, your goods are now much cheaper than your competitor's goods, but with the economy cratering is anybody going to be buying?

There are times when tariffs can work extremely well for certain lucky companies, but they have to be targeted long-term tariffs. Not this chaos.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

Many business are doing that pending clarity/resolution on the tariff. Here another example with automobile maker holding cars in port https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2025/04/07/volkswagen-audi-freezes-shipments-trump-tariffs/82981796007/

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Supply line disruptions

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