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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wish both Starlink and Bell a very big go fuck yourselves and I hope both of you go bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

i wish them both (and every other big canadian telecom) a very sincere Get Nationalized Fucker

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I love my offbranded Bell subsidiary substitute! It gives me the illusion of choice so I can feel like I am not funding Bell while still using the internet.

In all seriousness, where are we on other options? PublicMobile got bought out by Telus. Any non big telecom options for phone and internet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have TekSavvy internet (unless you're in their small fiber network, yes you're still using Bell/Rogers/Cogeco/Telus local lines) and my cell phone is with Fizz (flanker brand of VideoTron, which also owns Freedom, which is all owned by Quebecor).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I did too, but Teksavvy is trying to sell themselves off or whatever, so I moved to Park Power. Local reseller utility company (idk, their reach. Edmonton area at least. Power, gas, internet) that donates part of my monthly bill to CKUA radio. Among other options, but I like my CKUA donor supported radio.

Resellers may be some smoke and mirrors, but Teksavvy had unlimited bandwidth for 5 bux extra and wouldn't blacklist you for piracy.

However, Park Power doesn't charge extra to remove bandwidth caps. They straight up don't have any, and are pro consumer in regards to piracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TekSavvy and other TPIA (Third-Party Internet Access) providers are not a reseller, presumably including Park Power. They only use incumbent last-mile infrastructure. Once it's out of your neighborhood, it's their infrastructure.

TekSavvy has expressed interest in selling (it's owned by Marc Gaudrault and was previously co-owned with his brother, Rocky), but has not been sold yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the correction.

Yeah I typically jump ship with any company I pay monthly as soon as they announce any potentially negative shakeups. Did the same with Public Mobile who said they were likely going to shut down under Telus, then didn't lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

unless you're in their small fiber network, yes you're still using Bell/Rogers/Cogeco/Telus local lines

The reality is that infrastructure is expensive to build, and the low cost resellers aren't going to be able to build their own (at least not in most places) while maintaining lower prices and some sort of a profit margin.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

There are a few, but they're rare. I also have no idea if they're any good.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_telephone_companies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Move to Saskatchewan, sure you can see the middle of no where from here but you have real telecommunication competition with Sasktel.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Haha right? A broken clock is right once a day and stuff

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

If the clock is run by Bell does it could very well be 1 a day or week.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bell is just as terrible as Starlink .... at least they don't have an idiot CEO mascot parading around to the world how stupid their company is

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

And they're not ruining the night sky and radio astronomy.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago

I hate Bell but I hate Musk more. Let them fight.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

I never thought a day would come when I would agree with Bell. πŸ˜†

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Get rid of that space junk.

Over half the total sattelites in orbit are Starlink. This has to stop now before we loose access to space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (12 children)

While I can appreciate that, starlink is going to keep launching them even if we don't use it in Canada. Saying cut starlink out is fine and all but there are lots of places and communities without any decent broadband options at all (in Canada and beyond).

If your in an area getting decent cable or fiber as an option then your comments really don't require any level of sacrifice from you.

Would you commit to the comment to prevent starlink from additional satellites if it meant a general tax increase for everyone resulting in you personally paying an extra of $200/year to accomodate fiber buildout and maintenance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes I would.

But not giving them money will limit how many they launch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Saying cut starlink out is fine and all but there are lots of places and communities without any decent broadband options at all (in Canada and beyond).

You may be unaware, but Telstat will have their LEO constellation and subsequent high speed satellite internet up and running by 2027. A Canadian solution to a Canadian problem.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i have never been so confused about my position on a topic. ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You can still hate them both.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Bell. Let's Talk.

retches

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

A broken clock's right twice a day. F- Robellus, but f- Felon Moskva more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's incredible that people are willing to throw away excellent technology over emotions. This his been a problem throughout human history. When you look at the bigger picture, why would anyone want to be a part of that cycle?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I don't think that this is the case of "throw(ing) away excellent technology over emotions". This is the case of the owner of Starlink actively working with the American administration against the national interests & sovereignty of Canadians. We should be long, long past squabbling over borders, especially with nations that have been our close allies for over a hundred years, who have suddenly decided that annexation is a desirable objective. This has nothing to do with "emotions" and everything to do with sovereignty.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

because of emotions? we have seen Starlink being used to threaten/force Ukraine to comply now that they’re reliant on it for their military. We do not want to allow anything similar to happen here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

People are usually afraid of something they don't understand. You're so hyper focused on a few political issues that you are not seeing the enormous benefits this and other technology can have for all of humanity.

Who cares about the owner and how he's making money. Everyone dies, he will be dead eventually. Technology lives on. Don't be regressive.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

It’s a literal national security threat to become dependent on starling, as demonstrated in Ukraine. We can build our own networks and support other LEO internet projects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The technology is not at peril here, Starlink the company is. Competitors exist, and they'll take Starlink's place, and the technology will live on. Competition is what's to like about capitalism, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Who cares about the owner and how he's making money. Everyone dies, he will be dead eventually. Technology lives on. Don't be regressive

Just like the guy that thought putting lead in gasoline was a great idea... now we have to deal with toxic soil for generations to come.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Littering LEO with space junk just so you can see the booba faster out in the sticks is not the forward thinking stance you want to believe it is.

Killing terrestrial astronony while, and potentially ending spaceflight, because we're too lazy to propey invest in terrestrial solutions and just want the billionaire wankers to control everyting is a self own.