I mean pretty much every website is US focused unless stated otherwise.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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And the argument always was that Reddit/Facebook/Twitter/whatever are American.
Well, Lemmy is not. So there's no reason for it to be americanised by default.
(Unless we'll hear the argument that the internet is American :p)
Well, Al Gore said he invented it, so...
I don't think hosting was ever the argument. It was always just that the vast majority of users were American.
Any site defaulting to English is going to attract users who predominantly speak English as their primary language, and then people who speak English as a sort of lingua franca are going to be a smaller part of that. Among native English speakers, Americans make up the majority, so that's the prevailing default you are likely to see.
Even if Lemmy.world is hosted in Europe, I'd hazard that the largest user demographic is still Americans.
attract users who predominantly speak English as their primary language
I never understood this argument. Why do you think it's important whether English is your primary language or not?
People in developed countries often speak English pretty much perfectly (and know the difference between their and they're).
If you're going to a web site with a mixed audience, you're gonna use English, and if you're going to a local one, you use your local language. No big deal?
Native English speakers have the advantage of not needing a different language to speak to their locals, but that's all.
If somehow everyone agreed that Esperanto will be the default internet language, you wouldn't expect the majority to be native Esperanto users.
I mean, I think I addressed that in my post. When the discourse is defaulted to English, you end up with users who are either native English speakers and people using English as a lingua franca.
In the Anglosphere, Americans make up the largest single chunk, and they accordingly see no need to "enclave" the way other groups may because being the biggest means their standpoint is effectively the default one.
Actually (!) the majority of Reddit users are not American. Although Americans make up the largest single group, they’re in the minority overall.
Yeah I assume the reason there isn't is because the general ones are US-centric by default and then everyone else has to have somewhere specific to go. But I guess if they want their own dedicated place too why not?
ShitAmericansSay
If they were wrong people wouldn't be complaining about US defaultism.
Isn't that the problem being stated in the OP haha.
To be fair, they are to thank for the internet, so I guess it makes sense...
The US-defaultism that happens on the internet is very annoying
Yeah, it's especially annoying when you live in a different English speaking country. I don't give a shit about your pounds in the chicken recipe.
That's right! Put dollars in the chicken recipe!
Anyway that's my two cents.
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The US! Oppressing everything else in the world since...the beginning!
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I immediately became a bit upset when I read this post and realized US defaultism was going to happen on lemmy too now. Very annoying thing.
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Of course the Germans have have everything all organized.
Ja natürlich :)
Na klar! 😁
That's what we love about them. And the accent when they speak English. And their cars. Not forgetting their tools. Beer.
There is no rule that everything about Germany is hosted on feddit.de and everything what is hosted on feddit.de is about Germany. I have a english language GalaxyWatch community located on feddit.de.
TBH, I do not know what is the best way to handle these. As far as I understand, the idea of fediverse is that instance as such must not be important. And there are many instances which have no "self-vision" or it is based on other logic than geography.
I have a english language GalaxyWatch community located on feddit.de.
Literally the first sentence in their sidebar says "Deutschsprachige Lemmy Community" (= German-language Lemmy Community). So you're right that feddit.de is not about Germany but German is spoken in several European countries, so you do disrespect the intend of feddit.de by hosting an English community there.
They also write in their rules that it's okay to create English speaking communities. So no harm done.
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And I'm sure it would also be more convenient to have it all under one roof, just like everything about Germany is under feddit.de, and people from elsewhere can still visit if they like.
I'm trying to advertise my country's instance, feddit.nu (Sweden). feddit.de got a headstart with Germans by having been created before the Reddit migration and providing the first federated community discovery tool.
Instances that were created after the migration started on the other hand? It's frustrating with Redditor behavior, because they expect the Lemmy community to share the same name as the Reddit community (/r/Sweden) and only subscribe to communities that use the same name.
If you don't want your lemmy.world feed to be flooded with languages you can't understand, please make sure to annoy their users about it as much as possible, in English, that they should move to the country-specific instances instead of centralizing on lemmy.world. It's healthier for the Fediverse in general with everyone on many instances, in the long run.
New instances have it super hard in general. This is an issue the Lemmy system needs to resolve somehow.
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If you don't want your lemmy.world feed to be flooded with languages you can't understand
Mastodon has a feature where you can set which language a post is in, and a setting in your account where you can select which languages you want to see. Is this not viable for Lemmy?
Edit: Nevermind, I just found out this feature is in Lemmy as well 😅
The feature is there, but it's glitchy. Whenever I try to post with a language tag to lemmy.world and other big instances, the post screen stays loading forever and the post is never submitted. It only goes through when I remove the language tag, so I avoid posting non-English content on lemmy.world because I can't tag it...
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Lemmy.ca exists for Canada too. There are dozens of us. Dozens!
That must be the most polite server on Lemmy.
Sorry
Isn't lemm.ee US based?
It's Estonian (.ee is the country code for Estonia) but it's also a cool domain hack and the owner opened it to everyone.
Oh, thought I saw it was US based somewhere, must've mistaken it for another instance
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If it is, they aren't doing much to advertise it or to attract those kinds of communities.
Nah, lemm.ee is hosted in the EU.
The .ee must stand for European Eunion
Well it’s certainly not for Emerican Empire.
well now someone needs to make the most obnoxiously American patriotic instance possible, as a meme
Can we afford to buy freedom.us?
Call it blackjacknhooke.rs
I mean you can just have your feed show only the stuff you’re subscribed to…
Well beehaw.org is hosted in NYC.
It might be because most of us Americans lick the boots of corporations for free or get in line to.
Don’t forget about subscription services for everything!
I like my life for rent!
I thought beehaw.org is US based.
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