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Nearly 900,000 fewer people went to the U.S. in March as cross-border travel plummets (www.cbc.ca)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The number of cross-border travellers going from Canada to the U.S. dropped by nearly 900,000 in March compared to the same month last year, according to the latest U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data — easily one of the worst year-over-year drops recorded outside of the COVID-19 health crisis.

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[–] [email protected] 181 points 3 days ago (2 children)

She said Trump's rhetoric is unfortunate and she wants prospective Canadian visitors to know they are welcome in California.

They don't even get what the issue is apparently.

We're being warned to leave our phones at home when crossing the border. People are being detained for weeks for visa issues. Our government has issued a travel advisory about how US border guards are screening travellers.

This isn't just "oh, we're upset you hosers are calling us the 51st state, eh."

This is genuine fear of what might happen if we go to your country. A friend of mine was almost in tears because she had non-refundable tickets to go to the states to see a friend and was worried about crossing the border.

Sorry, but it's going to take more than, "please come visit because we like you, really."

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sorry, but it's going to take more than, "please come visit because we like you, really."

They don't like you, they like your money.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Those of us who really do like you understand why you don't want to come now. Because even if you are visiting a blue state you still might encounter Trump's thugs at the border. Or ICE could get shooed away from a LAUSD elementary school and decide to randomly grab you off the street outside. You stay out and stay safe, spend your money locally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

True

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is true. Also, instead of just saying that you are our friends, fucking do something about it. It's your mess, and you aren't getting my money until you clean your own house. It's been a problem for a while, this is just the last straw.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I've come to the conclusion that it has to get very, very bad in the states before we'll actually do something about it, and by then it's likely to be too late. We're taking the plunge into fascism, and it won't end well.

I really hope I'm wrong. The 50501 protests have been somewhat heartening. But it's hard to see them having a real impact on an actual fascist traitor president who no longer has to care about his own popularity.

So it's hard to imagine this ending in anything but violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Lol its the governor of California, he can literally only have some control over what happens within California, with a couple of exceptions. PR is probably the main thing he can do. That being said, his PR message is probably not the best. You're right though, Canadians not giving money to the US, red or purple states in particular, can only help encourage Trump voters change their minds.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If the US wants to self-isolate: let them. They'll find out sooner rather than later what the consequences are.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America will be great again? Well probably more like, poor, distrusted, hated, ignored and alone, but maybe Russians and Chinese think that’s great.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Their idea of great is to split us into two societies. One for the rich and one for the poor, just like the 1890s. Just this time they'll never look into how the other half live

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The rockerfellas and Carnegies are back baby, just need a mass shooting of workers trying to organize again.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At least the Rockefellers and Carnegies of the world actually spread some of their wealth around by doing charity. Now, the aim was PR, these guys didn't give a shit about the poors either but at least they knew how to curate an image. Today's billionnaires want to see us actively suffering indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Carnegie felt responsible for the deaths of thousands. It wasn't all out of the kindness of his heart.

https://www.history.com/articles/how-americas-most-powerful-men-caused-americas-deadliest-flood

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

He did feel some responsibility. This generation of wealthy psychopaths haven't implied they feel a shred.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Disney World gonna be so pissed when their bottom line goes down. The mouse will start shooting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

While 900k sounds like a lot, I'd be curious how much this varies over say the last 10 years. Only including one year of data seems a bit self serving

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In % it's pretty bad...

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250410/dq250410c-eng.htm

Focus on Canada and the United States

In March 2025, the number of arrivals to Canada by US residents by air increased 1.2% from the same month in 2024, while arrivals by automobile decreased 10.6%.

In March 2025, Canadian residents flew back from 719,500 trips to the United States, which represented a 13.5% decline from the same month in 2024. For Canadian-resident return trips by automobile from the United States, March 2025 saw a decline of 31.9% to 1.5 million. This was the third consecutive month of year-over-year decline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes it does but I'm curious if similar swings happen in other years. That link only shows the past 5 years which is tainted from COVID downswings and upswings.

I'm sure the Cheeto is having an effect on travel but only looking at data from one year doesn't prove it was directly related to his policies. For instance it can be travel stabilizing after a surge post pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

It's a year on year comparison, meaning that it's down compared to the same month a year ago, which is a good reference point because it was post COVID and is the year that should be the most similar to the current one since it's pretty useless to compare numbers from a decade ago when our population was lower.

The pandemic surge had ended in 2024 since everything reopened in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bad in which sense? 86% are still travelling to a fascist country, thats arguably pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Most people's international travel plans are usually months in advance. Dropping so quickly is actually surprising to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

a 15 percent drop so quickly in something people habitually do is pretty impactful. The article itself indicates those 600k people represents an almost 17% drop from Canada.

[–] radiohead37 11 points 3 days ago

Like the article says, it is by far the largest drop year over year outside Covid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That's their plan. I'm sure it'll work out for places like Florida that spend in tourist dollars.