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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Stop making this about anybody's character. This is about due process and what passes as evidence.

Republicans control the narrative here and have already painted him as a gang member. No amount of opposition to this point from the Democrats will convince Republicans otherwise.

When Democrats try to counter by pointing to Garcia's positive character traits, they are preaching to the choir. Whether you believe his a "gang banger" or a "family man" is irrelevant because the Republicans have the stage.

We need to demand evidence of all claims made by those in power... we need to do this relentlessly towards both sides. Do not accept any statement without evidence, and refuse to move on to a different point until the requirement for evidence has been satisfied.

When they say, "Garcia is an MS-13 terrorist," we need to say, "What do you offer as proof?" and keep asking until they provide said proof, concede defeat, or resort to force towards their questioners. Like it or not, we need to do the same for Democrat's claims that he is a "family man". You will not win a propaganda war against the party that controls all branches of government.

Repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Yes, but ask a question often enough, it becomes unavoidable.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

We need to demand evidence of all claims made by those in power...

They have all the evidence they need, they have his skin color.

The south finally got their greatest dream, Jim crow back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When they say, “Garcia is an MS-13 terrorist,” we need to say, “What do you offer as proof?” and keep asking until they provide said proof, concede defeat, or resort to force towards their questioners. Like it or not, we need to do the same for Democrat’s claims that he is a “family man”.

We absolutely do not need to demand proof that he is a "family man". That is the "innocent" part of "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law". The onus is on the state to prove he committed a crime. End of story.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

In a court of law, yes, presumed innocence is the neutral state. In the court of public opinion, though, presuming innocence flips an "out-group = enemy" switch in their heads. Everything you say from that point is heard through their lizard brain telling them that you are a threat.

We do not have the luxury of holding the people currently in power to the rules. We don't have the luxury of ignoring the crazy person in the room, either. We have to engage on their terms, else they flip the table and walk away still in power, still on the war path.

They do, however, have the capacity for rational thought. The calmer you can keep them, the sooner their rationality will tell them that human rights apply to everyone or none at all.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

All in for the dregs of your society. He found them when he "drained the swamp".

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It really is a great time to be a scumbag and/or idiot in the US. A true golden age.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

A psychopathic system needs psychopaths to do it's bidding. If there aren't enough psychopaths it will create them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it should be illegal to use any image of Tator other than this one

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it's almost like his eyes and forehead want to separate themselves from his bulbous head, while his chin and lips want to curl up inside of his neck to hide.

no wonder the guy is a rapist. he's unfuckable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

He reminds me of an oranda goldfish.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Andrew Tate (the audio is bad. like, hearing this on Behind the Bastards made me need to pull over for a minute):

“Am I a bad person? Because the more you didn’t like it, the more I enjoyed it. I fucking loved how much you hated it. It turned me on. Why am I like that? Why?”

The UK police had this in 2015. He ran to Romania because multiple women were coming forward and the police couldn’t keep blowing them off.

What he did in Romania was the kind of dystopian hellish sex trafficking that the alt right whips itself into hysteria about.

He also influenced tons of children. He grabbed many teenage boys minds in a disturbed way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

The Republican (Nazi) agenda’s end goal:

Remove all men who dissent

Rape their wives and daughters

Force them to birth their rape babies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I get the point, but afaik trump didn't being that shit stain back to he US. I know his travel restrictions were lifted but last I read that wasn't due to US pressure

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He specifically brought him from romania to florida a month ago by demanding it, where have you been?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for that? All I've seen was cheeto denying he know who taint was and then Florida, shockingly, running them out of town by investigating the taint brothers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly22wdedqeo

When asked about the Tates at the White House on Thursday, President Trump said: "I know nothing about that."

But the brothers have been the subject of recent high-level discussions between the US and Romania.

Romanian officials say US counterparts brought up the brothers' case with the Romanian government earlier this month, a story first reported by the Financial Times.

And Trump special envoy Richard Grenell [raised the issue again at a security conference in Munich.

Hurezeanu said the Tates were mentioned during that conversation, but denied being pressured to release the pair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks!

This seems like a personal crusade of Grenell especially considering cheeto's desire to take credit for anything happening and Florida almost immediately trying to get them to go anywhere else.

I have yet to see a source of dipshit in chief demanding anything, which was the original claim.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Grenell is following the will of the admin. Him not taking direct credit gives him plausible deniability for not being associated with a sex traffickers while his base can give him credit so it’s a win win for him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's possible, for sure. I also think dipshit cares so little about what people in his admin do as long as he gets to do what he wants that there are people doing rogue shit all over the place. This seems like too much effort him to actually make.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why's the man being showered with downvotes for asking for a source? I feel like this thread is a constructive conversation...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't care about the downvotes because we were having a civil conversation. Worth it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I only read Cheeto denying this. Yeah yeah, I know, anything the Gran Cheeto says is a lie, or sometimes not, or sometimes a double lie, coming back to the truth again by sheer accident.... But that is all I heard, and I want to think I'm pretty on top of the news, especially with this raping shit stain