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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (3 children)

man we are like 2 years away from putting lead back in the gasoline at this point

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

It's got what lungs crave.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate to break it to you, but they never stopped using it in airplanes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The dose makes the poison, we can see in blood lead levels over time that we've basically solved the problem by eliminating it from car exhaust, which we breathe pretty regularly.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you live within 1 mile of an airport you will have high amounts of lead in your blood. Maybe not as much as before, but still higher than there should be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

We're finally able to start reducing that. Just last year, the FAA approved the use of unleaded aviation gasoline in all spark-ignition aircraft designed for 100-Low-Lead.

They've also fairly recently authorized compression-ignition ("diesel") engine swaps in some of the most popular piston-powered GA aircraft, allowing them to burn cheaper, more efficient jet fuel instead of gasoline.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Don't give them ideas.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

lmao first state after UTAH, of all places. talk about a state whose whole economy relies on their smiles.. jesus joseph smith that's wild

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Dumbest of the dumb. If you really want to belitin conspiracies and want to fight that machine, put Desantis and his wife in jail for diverting tax dollars to their pet projects.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Fluorida…

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As long as I continue to brush with floride toothpaste, this shouldn't matter. Right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I'll say that most highly thought of European counties don't do it so, yeah, use fluoride toothpaste and you're gucci.

Most European countries including Italy, France, Finland, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Scotland, Austria, Poland, Hungary and Switzerland do not fluoridate water.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_country

Oh, despite us Finns not fluoridating water, there's quite a lot of it in well water.

Finland

Kuopio is the only community in Finland with at least 70,000 people that has ever had water fluoridated.[56] Kuopio stopped fluoridation in 1992.[86] In regions with rapakivi bedrock (small, but densely populated regions), 22% of well waters and 55% of drilled well waters exceed the legal limit of 1.5 mg/L; generally, surface and well waters have 0.5-2.0 mg/L fluoride in affected regions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"we don't flouridate our water"

"Our water naturally has flouride"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some of it.

So?

Most don't have any.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So it makes your point unclear. Are you saying that they have good teeth even with no flouride in the water and not using flouride toothpaste?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes.

There is no need to add fluoride to drinking water, even when fluoride is good for cavities.

It's not my problem if you want to have dirty teeth.

Wash your fucking teeth man

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, I see. I think I get the misunderstanding.

Poor people in this country have no money and no support. There's no free toothpaste fairy floating around giving out supplies. In some parts of the country there isn't even sewer lines.

But I understand, it's easy to mistake us for a first world country because you only see our media. We're not. We're a third world country with first world coasts.

Wash your fucking teeth man

You're privileged. Learn some creativity and empathy, or stop wasting the world's oxygen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Do you think toothpaste from supermarkets is literally free in Finland? Boy, just how fucking dumb are you?

Looks like someone is mad and pretending to be a big boy.

Are you talking about the US?

In all aspects, you are a developing country. And I didn't even bring that up, you did.

https://today.duke.edu/2022/03/lead-exposure-last-century-shrunk-iq-scores-half-americans

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I had heard people in Finland had anger management issues.

But that's my point. Many in the US simply can't afford it. Most in Finland can. So simply saying "brush your teeth", as if it's a personal failing, is just wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the amount of fluoride you need is miniscule. There hasn't really been much of a need for fluoridated water since fluoridated toothpastes became common in the 1960s.

There's nothing wrong with fluoridated water, and anyone with teeth certainly needs fluoride. But toothpaste and mouthwash are more than sufficient sources.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

florida fell out of the news cycle after desantis abandoned his bid for the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still, the Florida man that stopped a street fight via vehicular manslaughter, etc. has DeShittits beat, IMHO. That man is exemplary of his state. (Works both ways.)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Honestly not a bad idea. Fluoride doesn't actually provide much of any benefit for those who brush their teeth. If anything we ought to be asking why we keep spending money on it now that brushing is entirely normal.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because, the cost to rewards ratio is unbelievably high in this case. Putting fluoride into water is super cheap and the public benefit it creates is huge.

This is especially important for parts of the population that depend on others for their healthcare (kids). If your parents didn’t teach your to brush your teeth, creating good habits and providing the right materials, the fluoride is going to do a lot for this children.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

the public benefit it creates is huge

Uh... the whole point I'm making is that the benefit is almost nonexistent.

Are you basing your opinion entirely upon what sounds better to you politically, instead of actually knowing anything about the issue?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now explain the downside. Given how cheap it is, I don’t see the problem even if you’re correct that the benefit is almost nonexistent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean, whatever money value you want to attach, you're still burning plenty of fossil fuels needlessly in it's manufacture, transport and application. Takes up people's time which could potentially be spent on more important things also. Just to spitball a few things that could be gained.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~I mean, whatever money value you want to attach, you're still burning plenty of fossil fuels needlessly in it's manufacture, transport and application. Takes up people's time which could potentially be spent on more important things also. Just to spitball a few things that could be gained.~~

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6195894/

You made a typo, fixed it for you

Fluoride does have some downsides, the major upside is dental caries prevention, because of the high carbohydrate default diet caries are very common

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Your point is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

You’re just talking out of your ass. Why should anyone believe you? Where’s your data to support the idea that “most people brush”, and further that there isn’t any benefit for people who do brush?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmm, same guy mad about "woke" games. Shocker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I'm just not into you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Using a tag: the mark of a true psycho. Keep on conservin (and thinking no one knows)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Can some other ppl look at this guys account, it has the worst takes I've seen and just gets down voted everywhere. I can't tell if this is a real person or a bot to spread chaos.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Tags are a useful feature. It's how I still know that they're a conservative dipshit when I discovered that fact months ago.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People brushed their teeth back when fluoride was first introduced too. It was normal back then. Fluoride still offered a benefit and it still does today. That's how public health works, we look at the big numbers over time, like how many kids have teeth rotting out of their heads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Looking at big numbers is how you harm minorities

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not as common as you'd think unfortunately - and not all parents make their kids brush which is totally not their fault. So as long as it doesn't harm anyone to keep it in and helps some why not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is that sarcasm? Its definity a parent's fault for not maintaining hygiene in their dependent spawn

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Not the fault of the kids” is obviously what they mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oh. That wasn't obvious

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You got downvoted hard but you're not actually wrong. Fluoride in toothpaste is plenty to prevent tooth issues.

The issue in the US is that the large wealth inequality and poor education makes it so that a substantial number don't brush sufficiently. So fluoride in drinking water does help a bit.

In the Netherlands, we stopped doing it decades ago because the health benefit wasn't really measurable anymore. And there are some non-zero health risks to adding fluoride as well, particularly if too much is added (which despite many measures does occasionally happen).

Outside of the Anglosphere adding fluoride is actually quite uncommon. Initially I had this kneejerk reaction too of thinking this was DeSantis just being his usual stupid self, but apparently it's not even such a crazy idea. It does remain to be seen whether personal dental hygiene is good enough in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

You got downvoted hard but you’re not actually wrong.

I've noticed several issues like this which are prominent on both the right and the left, where the consensus is obviously wrong, but it's framed as such a deeply partisan issue that too many people refuse to even consider it, and everyone involved looks like ideological zealots for it.

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