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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

I don't like to talk about politics. I also don't like working, cooking, taking the trash out, cleaning, etc. etc. I DO it, because it HAS to be done. There is no systemic good which comes that does not in some way come from participating in politics.

I don't talk politics with CERTAIN PEOPLE. People who engage in bad faith, whose highest political priority is fucking over someone else, rather than lifting everyone else up, who celebrate ignorance and cruelty. Any political ideology which is built on such foundational principles can be shut out of all political discussion by those with better, smarter, kinder ones.

Me and you might not agree on how to GET us there, but we share the goal of making things better and easier for the greatest number of people. If we don't, there's nothing to discuss, and so I won't talk politics with you.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I don't like talking about politics with Americans. They have their own political language that barely makes sense. It never gets anywhere because I think I'm just talking to whatever media or social media channels they got trained off.

One could be called a socialist, a capitalist, or even a Nazi depending on who's reading the comment, despite all being fundamentally insane conclusions to land on contextually.

I know you're certainly not all like that, but compared to the rest of the world, the percentages are much, much higher; enough to not even bother.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I remember being in school and having posters with things like "Ask Why?" To encourage critical thinking.

I also remember it being controversial because kids should listen to their parents.

That controversy is the answer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

As an American this is also why I don’t like talking to Americans about politics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I avoid talking about with family members or friends, because they often discuss it from a very low information point, and is very adamant they are right, then they get mad if you try to debunk which is true or not. i know a family member that recently became a trumper and he gets hostile when asked why he voted/supported trump. basically he doesnt want to think about it as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Heh. You just made me remember there's a social stigma that political discourse is reserved for "the intellectuals"—it's bullshit—so by expressing different ideas or opinions, someone can feel as though it's first and foremost an attack on their intelligence.

We live in a society where people just constantly disrespect each other so we're so on guard that even the most respectful intentions don't have a chance of getting through. These days it's much harder to just talk and bounce ideas back and forth until a balance is found. We all have way more common ground than we do differences, but we don't act that way

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

its like a hoarders mentality, out of sight out of mind, once they made that decision, they dump thier stuff they accumulate somewhere and dont want to think about the consequences, and you know what happens if you confront a hoarder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Americans tend to be kept from learning what socialism actually is, because then they might like it. I remember reading a 50’s World Book encyclopedia which essentially defined socialism as an autocratic dictatorship.

I was told in school that if you lived in a socialist society, your job was picked out for you, basically from birth.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People like this are the reason other people say they don't like politics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, the reason people say they don't like politics is that they've been brainwashed by the owning class into thinking politics is government drama. They don't realise everything is political.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

As a transgender man who was chased out of my profession, subsequently experienced an intensifying period of relationship violence, was unable to find any form of support or help (no domestic violence shelters, no low income legal support, nothing), and experienced physical abuse on the female ward when this broke my brain so much that I told the nice person on the crisis line I wanted to die -

My life is political. I’m driving around with a license that might not count anymore, despite having followed all of the rules to get it changed 10 years ago. I don’t get to opt out of politics. I’d love to! I’d love to do nothing but focus on my career and hobbies, enjoy art and relationships.

But I can’t. The world I live in is actively hostile to people like me. Politics invades my life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You're valid and @[email protected] is being incredibly dismissive towards your experiences. You have a right to be angry when you see privileged takes like that. You're owed an apology.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It means they don’t want to have heated arguments which no one is going to agree on either way. Especially not when the racist uncle is participating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

or arguing with a MAGAT who is low information,.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't like to talk about politics because many people gets unreasonable when it comes to politics. So I basically lose the motivation to talk about it. That doesn't mean I lose all my opinions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah it does. Politics is your entire personality. You've just been brainwashed into thinking certain parts aren't political, when they are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, I have no doubt it's your entire personality.

Listen, people need some time off every so often, to escape, and avoid talking about what can be an incredibly depressing topic.

And if you intrude on that, people will just shut you out. Especially when the "conversation" is just you sharing your views.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have literally never seen an apolitical comment from you on this website. And you're always on the fedidrama community. Show me one apolitical comment you've made, and I'll believe you have a personality other than politics.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

You sound like someone I'd cross the street to avoid talking to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get your point, yeah... your opinion makes sense. It's just a bit complicated in reality. For example, if I share my point of view straightforward, I may get into trouble. And sometimes people who loves to politicize everything would make discussions painful, like, I just want to talk about algorithm used in some software, and theyr throwing a lot of theories to me ab the company behind it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, that's correct, except you're not talking about politics. You're talking about controversy. It's dangerous for you to talk about controversy, not politics. Everything is political, and that means you talk about politics every day. Everyone you know is completely comfortable with politics, it's just controversy they don't like.

Rich people want you to use the newspeak of calling it politics so you'll be more malleable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Some people think politics and personal lives are not only separable but are inherently separate ideas. They are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Everything is political" is a terrible way to convey that you should care about politics. It conflates the broadest dictionary definition of "politics" with the narrow, collaquial one, and it overwhelms the layman.

How about "take an interest in politics, or it'll take an interest in you?" It centers the interests of the individual you're conversing with, and doesn't leave the implication that politics should be the only thing they care about (contrarily, it posits caring about other things is why you should care about politics.) I see this phrase repeated within the Vtuber community, which is normally a very politics-resistant space, in light of tarrifs driving up merch prices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no phrase clever enough to convince any american who doesnt already say they care about politics to say they care about politics. The people who say this only care about themselves, and will not change until it directly affects them. What we should be striving for is ensuring it affects them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

My use of that phrase was inspired by it's use in the Vtuber community, a community that is normally extremely hostile to discussing politics (this is one of the things I like about it, but because I already spend a lot of time on politics, not because I'm running from it entirely) after it was affected by tarrifs. So yeah you're right about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It conflates the broadest dictionary definition of “politics” with the narrow, collaquial one

Actually, it completely erases the narrow, colloquial one. I think the colloquial definition of politics is completely unacceptable to use, and I refuse to legitimise it. Words have meanings and I'm going to treat people like they used the correct ones. If they have a problem with that, they can say what they mean instead of what they don't.

Treating politics like something you can escape is a microaggression against BIPOC people whose identities are politicised every day, and is therefore racist. I'm not going to legitimise racism. If people want to act like politics is avoidable, they can go do it at the klan rally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A definition of a word that your audience doesn't understand is pointless. Language is defined from bottom up, not top down.

You'd better be nonwhite to be typing that second paragraph, because I'm not white either.

Telling me "everything is political" when my identity is politicized unfairly sounds more like an excuse for it than defending POC. You sound like you're making an excuse for culture warriors who bitch and moan whenever a non-white character shows up. LGBT people in my experience tend to correctly insist that their identities are not political. That makes more sense, it correctly puts the onus on the right wing assholes that politicized it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But England literally has a King

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who is no longer allowed to make decisions for the people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No they are.

But if they ever use their theoretical power to go against the wishes of the people, there will be an instant revolution and we will burn their place down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Give Fox news 30 years to rot their brains

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Sometimes i just no think good. I try to be involved but its really too big for me alone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How about nobody makes decisions?

Every problem humanity has solved has created newer and bigger problems.

Let’s just stop doing that because everything is getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not making a decision is also a decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

And it doesn’t matter what your decision is because you lost the election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People make decisions for you despite not living in a monarchy.

I didn’t decide to make Trump president, but it happened anyway, and no amount of talking about it will change that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Talk to local revolutionary groups about insurrection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can we just skip to the AI overlords stuff? Human leadership is getting kind of stale and repetitive lately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You really saw all of those fucked up nightmare hands and thought, "why can't this be in charge?" What makes you think having a failed artist for a dictator is a good idea?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

also true for a ton of countries

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
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