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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

For what it's worth: this was apparently a concept created by an airline seat company called Aviointeriors who showed the idea off at trade shows in 2010 (as the "SkyRider") and 2018 (as the "SkyRider 2.0" pictured here.) Pretty much all the news articles about it are about Aviointeriors claiming vague unsourced "plans" for them to be adopted by some future date, steeped in Aviointeriors' corporate PR speak, but the articles mostly end up being about the intense public backlash to the idea. No airlines have announced any plans to buy and use these seats, not even those lunatics at RyanAir, and in the years since all SkyRider mentions have been quietly removed from Aviointeriors' own site.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The fact this company is still around makes me think someone with a lot of money is trying to promote the concept every so often just to see if the public might finally accept this ludicrous idea. A company being around for 15 years with 0 sales and just a concept means someone wants this to happen but thinks the only problem is that they haven't figured out the right pitch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The company sells normal airplane seats and has been around for a long time. This pitch seems to have been an unsuccessful attempt to create a new market they could rule with their crappy invention.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

You say crappy, I say wait. My knees won't have to bend so much. I'd actually take this if I didn't have kids

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Next stage: inject you with strong sedatives and pack the plane with the bodies

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I mean honestly though, I'm kinda here for that. It's essentially teleportation at that point.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Lowest common denominator...capitalism in crisis. It's not a joke, man. If they can get away with it, they will.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm broke as shit. So if it halved the cost of the tickets I'd do it, but I'm 99% sure I'd be paying close to the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

You must be a wizard. Of course the savings aren't transferred to you. When they fuck up. They put it on the consumer. Time is unwinding. The poor pay more.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I can’t wait to see people passing out or getting injured because of these seats.

E: plenty of people arguing like people of good health will be the only passengers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What could go wrong standing for two hours... Nothing probably if you're a healthy young individual

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

People are often advised to not lock their knees for a long time while standing (ex: marching band, or standing at attention in the military), and you cannot force anyone to have healthy posture. The ergonomics of these seats appear to take some of the load off the legs and feet, but it's something to consider for patrons with more sedentary lifestyles. Many people believe themselves to be fit individuals until they are placed in uncomfortable conditions for a long time or experience unexpected stress. They could manage to injure themselves in some way, then find some reason to litigate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

How fat you would have to be to pass out from standing for 2 hours?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I don't know about how much fat it might take, but my 2 knee surgeries and both my deteriorating hip joints, (been searching eBay for a good used hip joint for cheap), tell me that standing for 2 hours is a painful idea.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Just wait til they stick these on international flights. You'll stand 14 hours and you'll love it, peasant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm skinny and I'll pass out in less than an hour. Have severe POTS from EDS, heart went into asystole after 35 minutes into a tilt table test and they had to put me back down. I've passed out several times in other settings.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Right? And we should just take all the unfit people and just put them in camps and create a perfect society, right? Like, I get angry at America for being so fat, but not because they're fat. I get angry at how far down the pipeline we have gone of lowest common denominator thinking. To the point where we just eat poisonous food that our body doesn't know how to process and just stores as fat. Also, capitalism is in crisis. With lowest common denominator thinking add a little slippery slope and the power in the hands of the few with a sprinkling of toxic positive optimism with the cherry of Hopeium and now we've got out of touch shithead sundae. I mean, people are claustrophobic and, you know, I think the claustrophobic element makes it even worse when you're crammed with other people. Some of the outbursts that we see on planes is not just people losing their minds, but it's also that people are crampacked in a plane. I can see a lot more mental episodes with this type of seating Structure. And I get angry at society cheering on diminishing returns for the working class, while the billionaires are making money over hand over fist. They justify rich people to be in charge of things and to profit, but they still have yet to innovate and give us the future that they said they were going to. We're being lied to and this is just an example of you getting dominated.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

honestly might even be more healthy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only if you do it on a regular basis, not a one-shot like this (if you do not stand a lot usually).

Also, Turbulence!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

See, this is an example of Hopium. Or toxic positive optimism. Tech Bro shit. But I think you're joking. I hope you're joking.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What about people like myself who have POTS and can't be in a standing position for too long? My heart can legit stop causing me to pass out if I'm standing for too long.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Then don't book standing seats?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Why should I have to be forced to pay more for sitting seats just because I have a disability? What if all the sitting seats are fully booked or the plane has no sitting seats for passengers? It's like intentionally designing a shop with several tall steps at the entrance that would make it impossible for wheelchair users to enter, and the wheelchair users have to pay each time they shop there to have a ramp extended at the entrance so they can enter. It's an example of ablest design.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This extreme capitalism is absurd and needs to end. People like to pretend that the state taking over industry is some radical thing, but it’s the only way to make it function correctly. Capitalists have not demonstrated an ability to handle anything, they’re like toddlers.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Standing still in place for a few hours is waaay more uncomfortable than pacing and walking around. Shifting the weight on our feet really helps

I can't imagine how awful these would be, especially with how cramped they'd be packed in (otherwise they're no smaller than chairs). God, you couldn't even bend down to scratch your knee.

I remember seeing pictures like this a looking time ago so I'm pretty sure they're fake bait. At best it's an idea somebody prototyped but won't use.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cowards just need to go all in and hang us under the plane like an overhead roller coaster.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

It can even be dangerous for some people to be in a standing position for too long. I have a severe case of POTS caused by a genetic disorder. My heart stopped during a tilt table test, which is where I was forced to remain in a standing position. If I'm expected to pay more for a normal seat just because I'm disabled, that's ableism.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I don’t get it. Why not just have bunk beds and everyone gets to lay down like those sleeper busses in Asia. They get way more people on those busses than with just seats

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

First it'll be the seats. Next they will remove the floor. Now it's one of those dangling roller coaster rides without rails! 😃

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Apart from the deadly practicalities, and the boring route, that does sound kinda fun ngl.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Second hand coffins, cheap!" -Stan, slaps lid of coffin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not really worse than standing on the train for hours. But, standing on a train doesn't make the ride cheaper. So, in some ways better than standing on the train

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I've stood on the bus for 4-5 hours before. When I was younger I could sleep standing on the bus. Not sure if I could pull it off now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd pay extra to not have to deal with the TSA as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

The Security Theater is non-negotiable. It's there to maintain fear. Those that created the Security Theater are the ones that create the terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'm over 40 and I usually stand up about half of my working day. But I wouldn't want to stand in an airplane because it's cramped.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Got to get that body count up these suckers be falling from the skies. Exponential Madness. Slippery Slope. We're all falling down the mountain, grasping for a short rope. Mass hysteria gaslighting clowns, limp dick leadership. Fly to your vacay as the nukes are dropping. YOLO. A world in denial. The show must go on. Welcome to the world of the billionaire welfare queen. The Liberals open the door for their devil. This was always the case. The Sun whorshippers, breed-like rats and whorship idols. Singing their coping mechanisms of toxic positive optimism. Who the hell needs to watch movies anymore? Clown, clown show, clown show. Capitalism in Crisis, everybody's goose stepping. It's easy to destroy but difficult to build. lowest common denominator.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Sir this is a highly confused Wendys...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I hate air travel so much. I have non-local family so deal with a single r/t per year, but that's about my limit.

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