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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I didn't realize neckbeard atheists oppressed so many people compared to religion, thanks to the author for opening my eyes

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Is one of these murderous religious people in the room with us right now?

Way to completely miss the point of the comic. Tearing down someone out of a vain desire to be "right" helps no one. Fight people who use any belief to justify being shitty to others. Go read some Vonnegut and learn to leave people who get goodness out of shit alone.

Edit: The comment originally was about religious people being murderous. My first edit was to add an additional thought. This dude's edited now to change the core of his argument from "murder" to "opression".

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If you are an adult and that is your reaction to understanding that god isnt real then you need serious psychological help.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, a lot of people need serious psychological help and get God instead.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Religion is often used as cognitive dissonance to avoid dealing with trauma.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This might be a popular opinion here on Lemmy but this is definitely NOT really rooted in reality.

Conceptually going from belief in a something you earnestly want to believe in to being proven it’s wrong will shatter who you are.

This is not much different than learning your partner is cheating on you or that your parents aren’t actually you parents and they hid it from you, or something like that.

Yes believing in religion may be absurd but c’mon this take is pretty off

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"If you have a deeply emotional reaction to your entire worldview being shattered in your middle age and having everything that once brought you a sense of comfort, however manufactured, suddenly ripped away from you, then you need psychological help."

At least your brain-dead snark somehow still brought you to the correct conclusion, unintentional as it may have been.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

Is one of these murderous religious people in the room with us right now?

No they're just ruling some of the most powerful and genocidal despotic countries in human history.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Fight people who use any belief to justify being shitty to others.

Yes, fight religion. Fight it with logic, science and facts. Otherwise you'll get people like RFK jr, and a whole bunch of sick and potentially dead children. Or you might end up like the middle east, dead in the name of god.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

There's a difference between religion and faith. Faith is belief in a higher power. Religion is an institution that exploits faith to opress people. This neckbeard atheist didn't thwart religion, he just destroyed his mom's faith. I have my doubts that his mom was doing a lot of oppressing.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Nobody said reality was all smiles and rainbows. However, it’s entirely possible to find happiness without believing in fairy tales so you can sleep at night.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im an atheist and I listen to The Lord of the Rings audiobook so I can sleep at night. Reality is fucking awful and I like my fairy tales.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And her son completely failed to demonstrate any of that. She presumably spent her life trying to take care of her kid, (the quality of which can only be guessed at, but she cared enough to listwn to his points about atheism) and as soon as her child shows her a new way of thinking he completely abandons her without giving her any ways of handling it.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Whew. Must have been hard work carrying all those assumptions in.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh boy, I sure love the ol' "atheists are filthy neckbeards" canard. Haven't heard that one before.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't forget the "not believing in god = sadness" one. Realizing it is fake actually brought relief for the ex-religious people that I know (anecdotal, I know. I don't have the actual numbers).

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Thats a little unfair. Most religous people have been religious for most of their lives and it makes up a large part of it. Being convinced their whole philosophy is wrong would crush some people

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (6 children)

To be honest, I don't think a lot of people are ready. It's a hard thing to deconstruct your faith and if you're not careful it can take you to some really dark places. For a lot of people it's the way they find meaning and solace in a world of pain. Ultimately if you can find that comfort without tying it to religion that's better but not everyone can. That's my take on it post-deconversion

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's more of a generational issue, really. Convincing someone who was already indoctrinated as a baby and began to "pray" as early as their arm coordination allowed it is almost cruel, really. At that point it's reality-shattering. Let alone if your religion included any kind of body-modification, especially without anesthesia (that shit burns itself into the very fabric of your brain as a baby). In that case it's even worse, as it'd entail the realisation that your body has been violated (some may use stronger wording).

At the end of the day what counts is that you're a decent person, no matter your stance on religion or spirituality.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Soo what is the message here? Atheists are incel neckbeard basement dwellers and god is as real as one of their mother?

Edit: Oh wait I misread the comic in the most funny way! I read it as "my mum god" as if he stopped believing in his mum as a deity. Tired brain plays weird tricks.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Soo what is the message here?

That proselytizing about atheism without considering the needs and character of your audience can be just as bad as religion doing the same.

Love is more important than being right, and the son in the comic very clearly didn't show any. As soon as he proved his point, he left to go celebrate with his friends rather than spend time with his mother. He failed to show her that just because there is no big sky god doesn't mean that is no love.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not shown is the mother hatefully oppressing others due to her religion.

Religion can be both helpful to those that follow it while also causing those same people to do or support horrific things in its name.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not shown is the mother hatefully oppressing others due to her religion.

Yes. Exactly. "Not shown". That's not part of this comic. You've brought it in all on your own. You've missed the point of the comic if that's what you're focused on. Everybody here knows that religion can harm people. That's not the point of this comic. The point is that the way the son character went about his goals was exactly as destructive as the way that religion does. It was a warning to ensure that your discussion include love for the people behind the discussion, and not just hate for them for being wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's about atheists who make atheism their whole personality.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

DEAR LORD PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT A DEEPER MESSAGE AND IT'S JUST A DUMB JOKE!

Seriously, check out the other comics by this artist. They just like absurdist humor, like this one:

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Don't be anti-intellectual about this silly comic. People can apply intellectual analysis to stupid things if they want to, and they damn-well may find deeper meaning sometimes.

Let people have their hobbies.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Is the mother supposed to be sad about religion being a sham or sad that her child doesn’t believe? The comic is too ambiguous to me because the 1st and 2nd panel heavily imply a caricature of atheism often spread by religious people who feel powerless in their own lives.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Even other atheists or agnostics use that caricature of reddit atheists. It's less so atheists and more like atheists who make atheism their whole personality

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (5 children)

As long as they aren’t doing horrible things in the name of religion, then I have the controversial opinion that religion isn’t all bad. Not everyone is an intellectual, therefore some religions can be considered a way to promote and preserve morals. While it’s unknown how his mother used religion, the neckband portrayed in the comic had no regard for his mother’s feelings or beliefs, showcasing the bad side of atheism. In the same way, religion could have similar effects. In the end there needs to be balance, a yin and a yang.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

delivering someone from a lifetime of sexual and gender oppression, and eliminating their need to tithe a portion of their income to an organization that hides and protects pedophiles and rapists?

Mom's on the floor weeping with joy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not every member of a church experiences those things first hand.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

One panel away from being Loss.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

An awful lot of the neckbeards from the comic in these comments.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm sure you'd feel more secure with the 9gag comment section, they love this type of stereotype (as well as others)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So many people in this thread completely missing the satire. The author is clearly also an atheist poking fun at the highschool reddit atheist stereotype. Taking this way too seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Honestly, this is why I don't discuss Mormon history and the massive, gaping chasms in their claims of Truth with my parents. My parents are old--old enough that the family is talking about who is going to call the coroner, who's going to deal with tying up finances, etc.--and knowing that they've wasted an entire lifetime and hundreds of thousands of dollars in tithing on a con isn't going to do anything useful at this point. Fifty years ago? Sure, they would have had plenty of time to come to terms with it. Now? Meh.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

When I worked in a nursing home, I was Christian.

I mean, I wasn't. At all. But the dying little old ladies who sundowned so bad that they sometimes thought I was their grandchild? When they asked if I believed in Jesus, I'd bite my tongue and tell them yes. I hated having to lie to their faces, I hate even thinking about it all these years later, but some of them had nothing to look forward to except "going to heaven" by that point. Lying seemed the most ethical choice.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm an atheist but I understand that religion and/or faith makes a lot of people happy and I don't want to take that happiness away from them.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

These comments sure are something, eh?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

The drawing of him kicking in the door is hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Some people just can't handle being released from Plato's cave.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

That looks like a healthy cry. She will go through much self reflection and come about as a better person.

Nope! She has spent her life with a religious as her backbone and now will seek it as a crutch with greater desparation. Trauma...survival mode...etc...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Religion may be a lie but it's a comforting lie and that helps a lot of people get through their daily life.

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