I didn't know you could beat windows, I thought it was a weird open world game.
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Windows is a strange game. It seems the only winning move is not to play.
Much like another game, that we just lost.
At some point in the future I'll come find you and remind you of what you took from me.
The evil of Microsoft is too great to resist. The only way to win is to deny it battle. And something about candles and cooking.
SteamOS massively beats Windows
Linux massively beats Windows
History has been made.
Dave’s got a lot of mileage out of that video. Famous overnight essentially! Seeing this type of article everywhere
Massively?
Yeah there's improvements, battery and performance wise
There's nothing massive here there is a decent bump in specifically the cyberpunk fps
Edit: geez this single comment brought more people out of the woodwork to respond to me than anything else I have commented on lemmy
I'm not even here arguing which one is better like come on now
Massively is the wrong word to use it's that simple
About 10% fps bump and even bigger battery life improvement at the same time borderline justifies the title in my book
When it comes to battery life, SteamOS was yet again a very clear winner in this with even demanding titles like Cyberpunk 2077 having 1 hour 31 minutes on Windows and 2 hours 6 minutes on SteamOS. In less demanding titles like Dead Cells the difference is absolutely insane jumping from 2 hours 47 minutes on Windows to 7 hours 8 minutes on SteamOS.
Yes. Massively. And I don't know why you're doubling down on being wrong.
12% faster with anywhere from 34% to 320% better battery life, and $130 cheaper is massively better, especially on the exact same hardware.
The difference is astonishing, tbh. I'd have expected a negligible difference.
Massively better was completely correct, and you are wrong to state otherwise. It's that simple.
You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.
In one specific game the battery life is much much better. In that one specific use case the word "massive" is used aptly.
All the other minor improvements are just that minor. Bud you saying that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.
And of course the vice versa applies.
How I KNOW this is not a normal discussion..... Who the hell brought up price? Certainly not me
Please continue to talk about random shit I never mentioned. I don't care. you do you
An improvement of 5-10 fps doesn't seem like a lot, but it's like buying a newer gen graphics card, at least for some games. Or what you would achieve with a medium to substantial overclock. In this case it's just the OS though. Just the software.
You care so much about glorifying linux everything else falls away.
What else? Nitpicking at the use of words in news articles?
What I'm personally more skeptic about is the actual numbers. We don't have benchmarks. We just have this one table that shows fps, and no 1% and 0.1%s.
I don’t find arguing semantics to be very productive, which I think is the reason you are being downvoted. The differences between SteamOS and Windows on the Legion Go are very significant, with SteamOS gaining as much as hours of extra gameplay, in addition to modest performance gains and major improvements to usability and quality of life. And yes, the Windows tax is very much a part of the big picture even if it’s not mentioned in the article. With Windows preloaded, you are paying $100-200 more for a significantly worse product. I don’t see any reason to engage in Windows apologetics over this, especially here.
only one proselytizing anything here is you, bud.
and you seem to be proselytizing for windows with how insistent you are to try to handwave and rugsweep the increases in performance and usability
I mean, there is a bit of hyperbole here, the FPS aren't that impressive - but the battery life improvements are I think more in the ballpark of "massively"
Massive is a bit of hyperbole yes but gaining on battery and performance just by putting in the system is a lot remember that Steam OS also more configurable so it has more room to improve.
If that's not telling anyone with a surface level understanding that windows is shit nothing does.
I think you just don't understand or have a frame of reference for performance numbers.
Massive is the right word.
A simple OS shift and you are looking at a more than generational improvement in performance, and a multi generational improvement in battery life: massive.
I get that you might not be into these kinds of numbers enough to know what you are talking about about, but maybe refrain from commenting till you develop some context.
Improved in every category for the games tested, most results in 2 digit improvement while costing $130 less... that's massive by almost any angle you can frame it...
I have to agree, it's better but not really massivley so.
Title | Legion Go S - SteamOS | Legion Go S - Windows |
---|---|---|
Cyberpunk | 59 FPS | 46 FPS |
Helldivers 2 | 70 FPS | 65 FPS |
Doom Eternal | 75 FPS | 66 FPS |
Spiderman 2 | 63 FPS | 64 FPS |
Witcher 3 | 76 FPS | 66 FPS |
That's still an average of over 10% FPS gains overall. Similar improvement to a new GPU generation, but on the same hardware. Sounds pretty massive to me.
Title | Legion Go S - SteamOS | Legion Go S - Windows | Difference |
---|---|---|---|
Cyberpunk | 59 FPS | 46 FPS | +28% |
Helldivers 2 | 70 FPS | 65 FPS | +7% |
Doom Eternal | 75 FPS | 66 FPS | +14% |
Spiderman 2 | 63 FPS | 64 FPS | -2% |
Witcher 3 | 76 FPS | 66 FPS | +15% |
Anything above 5% is significant, 10% on the same hardware IMHO classifies as massive
10% FPS gain, huge battery savings AND costing $130 less... that is massive
Gasoline massively beats molasses in cars.
This quick video from The Phawx seems to show that the battery performance difference isn't actually inherent to Windows, but rather that the GPU drivers don't throttle down the TDP when they should.
Windows has plenty of other issues but it seems any frustration about this specifically should be pointed at AMD.
Amd makes the drivers for both Linux and Windows brotha.... So Microsoft wasn't able to fix something the open source community in collab with amd could?...
I don't know the business negotiations of all that. But if you watch the video, Phawx basically uses one single command to lower the wattage on his Windows handheld and instantly triple the expected battery life. The underlying OS clearly supports it. Seems to me like the AMD driver just isn't detecting that the game has light power needs and so isn't throttling like it should.
As someone who does understand the business negotiations and software implementations, you have some of the issue correctly diagnosed but you're placing the responsibility on the wrong person lol.
How much better does Linux play Fortnite?
oh
I know you're just trying to bait folks, but I think you can play it on Linux using Xbox cloud gaming.
99% of games work on Linux, the 1% that don't happen to be all the major multiplayer games people acturally want to play
the 1% that don't happen to be all the major multiplayer games people acturally want to play
Whats this suppose to mean? That 1% just tells Linux users that the developers & publishers simply don’t care enough about their product.
void antiCheatTest() { if (system.OS == "linux") tellUserToGetFucked(); }