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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The most important thing I've ever been told about quantum is "shut up and calculate." Results don't seem physical? That's quantum. Results don't make sense? That's quantum. Shut up and calculate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I think it's boring honestly. It's a bit strange how like, the overwhelming majority of people either avoid interpreting quantum theory at all ("shut up and calculate") or use it specifically as a springboard to justify either sci-fi nonsense (multiverses) or even straight-up mystical nonsense (consciousness induced collapse). Meanwhile, every time there is a supposed "paradox" or "no-go theorem" showing you can't have a relatively simple explanation for something, someone in the literature publishes a paper showing it's false, and then only the paper showing how "weird" QM is gets media attention. I always find myself on the most extreme fringe of the fringe of thinking both that (1) we should try to interpret QM, and (2) we should be extremely conservative about our interpretation so we don't give up classical intuitions unless we absolutely have to. That seems to be considered an extremist fringe position these days.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Quantum physics doesn't make sense until you just let the math take you to the results and stop worrying about your intuition. You have to absolutely trust the math and work through the results as many times as you need to for them to make mathematical sense in spite of your intuition. Further, have some grace with yourself. It took us 7,000 years from the dawn of civilization to get to Aristotle, 2000 years to get from Aristotle to Newton, and 218 years to get from Newton to Einstein. In that time a lot of progress has been made to our understanding of physics, and a lot of the confusion about quantum physics is due to flawed understandings of the people who created it. Spin was literally thought to be rotational motion of the particle in the of

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think you fell asleep or something, your last sentence may have disappeared.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That is exactly what happened lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

I love Lemmy lol

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 day ago (4 children)

When researchers say "observe" they actually mean "measure". And when you're working with sub-atomic particles, "measure" isn't some passive activity. It's an active thing. When you measure small particles you are applying some force upon them, changing them in some way from how they would otherwise act.

Imagine if you were tasked with measuring traffic on the other side of the planet, but you had no cameras. The only tool you had was a gigantic 30 ton, satellite-networked pendulum swinging across the highway. The only way you know if there are cars on the highway is if the pendulum thwacks into one of them. That's quantum particle physics.... I think.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not exactly. Quantum physics applies no matter how you measure it. The double-slit experiment is an example of this: Photons moving through two slits will form a wave interference pattern on a detector plate, even though the detector doesn't affect the position of the photons beforehand.

It's more like: when you become aware of the results of a quantum measurement, you yourself become a part of the quantum system, and being a part of the system requires measurements to have real values. Whether you should interpret this as a wave-function collapse or branching into multiple parallel universes is up for debate though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you perform the measurement on which slit the particle passes through, then the measuring device is also part of the system and it affects it. The measurement reduces the degrees of freedom in the system so there are no longer two equivalent ways for the particle to pass through the slits (either A or B), but rather you now have a measured slit and an unmeasured slit. Since there are no longer multiple ways to achieve the same result, the is no longer interference due to equivalent probabilities.

Matt Stassler has a nice series of blog posts on this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, but that's semantics. Clearly the observation has some effect, but it's not from any force we recognize.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honest question: what happens afterwards? When we've stopped observing, does it reassemble into it's superpositive form? Are we depleting quantum states somehow?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sorta! According to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, there's an upper limit to how much we can "know" about the given state of a quantum system. This isn't an issue with our measurements, but a fundamental property of the universe itself. By measuring one aspect of a quantum system (for example, the momentum of a particle), we become less certain about other aspects of the system, even if we had already measured them before (such as the position of the same particle).

Though (as far as we know), we aren't going to run out of quantum states or anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you for your answer!

Maybe I'm too dense, but what happens with other quantum states that aren't position/velocity based? I'm thinking things like when we collapse spin, e.g. in entangled particles.

I've heard that entangled particles are "one use", I'd assume they can be restored and possibly re-entangled, but how?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Good question! You are certainly not dense!

The position-momentum uncertainty relationship is just a specific case of a more general relationship. There are other uncertainty relationships, such as between time and energy or between two (separate/orthogonal) components of angular velocity. The relationships basically state that whenever you measure one of the two values, you are required to add uncertainty to the other.

Unfortunately, this is kinda where my knowledge on the subject starts to hit its limits. As for spin, it has a lot of effects on the energy of the system it's involved with, so I believe the energy-time or angular momentum exclusion principles would apply there.

You might also be thinking "why not have two entagled cloned particles, and measure the momentum of one and the position on the other?". While you can duplicate particles, there are reasons why that doesn't work that I don't really remember tbh. I'm sure PBS Spacetime on Youtube has an episode on it somewhere though if you're interested

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The double-slit experiment doesn't even require quantum mechanics. It can be explained classically and intuitively.

It is helpful to think of a simpler case, the Mach-Zehnder interferometer, since it demonstrates the same effect but where where space is discretized to just two possible paths the particle can take and end up in, and so the path/position is typically described with just with a single qubit of information: |0⟩ and |1⟩.

You can explain this entirely classical if you stop thinking of photons really as independent objects but just specific values propagating in a field, what are sometimes called modes. If you go to measure a photon and your measuring device registers a |1⟩, this is often interpreted as having detected the photon, but if it measures a |0⟩, this is often interpreted as not detecting a photon, but if the photons are just modes in a field, then |0⟩ does not mean you registered nothing, it means that you indeed measured the field but the field just so happens to have a value of |0⟩ at that location.

Since fields are all-permeating, then describing two possible positions with |0⟩ and |1⟩ is misleading because there would be two modes in both possible positions, and each independently could have a value of |0⟩ or |1⟩, so it would be more accurate to describe the setup with two qubits worth of information, |00⟩, |01⟩, |10⟩, and |11⟩, which would represent a photon being on neither path, one path, the other path, or both paths (which indeed is physically possible in the real-world experiment).

When systems are described with |0⟩ or |1⟩, that is to say, 1 qubit worth of information, that doesn't mean they contain 1 bit of information. They actually contain as much as 3 as there are other bit values on orthogonal axes. You then find that the physical interaction between your measuring device and the mode perturbs one of the values on the orthogonal axis as information is propagating through the system, and this alters the outcome of the experiment.

You can interpret the double-slit experiment in the exact same way, but the math gets a bit more hairy because it deals with continuous position, but the ultimate concept is the same.

A measurement is a kind of physical interaction, and all physical interactions have to be specified by an operator, and not all operators are physically valid. Quantum theory simply doesn't allow you to construct a physically valid operator whereby one system could interact with another to record its properties in a non-perturbing fashion. Any operator you construct to record one of its properties without perturbing it must necessarily perturb its other properties. Specifically, it perturbs any other property within the same noncommuting group.

When the modes propagate from the two slits, your measurement of its position disturbs its momentum, and this random perturbation causes the momenta of the modes that were in phase with each other to longer be in phase. You can imagine two random strings which you don't know what they are but you know they're correlated with each other, so whatever is the values of the first one, whatever they are, they'd be correlated with the second. But then you randomly perturb one of them to randomly distribute its variables, and now they're no longer correlated, and so when they come together and interact, they interact with each other differently.

There's a paper on this here and also a lecture on this here. You don't have to go beyond the visualization or even mathematics of classical fields to understand the double-slit experiment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It gets even more interesting: to interfere in the double slit experiment, the light has to take a longer path for some points and light is really good at finding the shortest path. And, since you can extend the double slit experiment to infinite slits with infinitely thin blockers between the slits, you can leave away the slits entirely and still have a valid version of that experiment and get interference. It's just, that most interference is destructive.

Veritasium had a very interesting video about that recently and my extrapolation of this is that there is neither a collapse of wave functions nor multiple parallel universes.

My intuition says that the wave function is there after being "observed". There is no multiple possible outcomes, just very visible ones and a lot of destructive interfered ones.

However what i just wrote is not science but me extrapolating from science so don't take it for anything more than that. It somehow causes quantum physics to make intuitive sense for me so i like it. Nothing more than that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My example is more in regards to wave/particle duality as it shows up in variations of the double slit experiment. Putting a detector at one of the slits is an active interaction, giving you the particle-like behavior rather than the interference pattern.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I mean to say is that the detector is not what's changing the particle; It's the process of learning about an aspect of the quantum system that forces it into one state or another (at least from our own personal perspectives).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

uh, I'm a total quantum layman, but I'm pretty sure its the detector.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why interpret it as either? The double-slit experiment can be given an entirely classical explanation. Such extravagances are not necessary. As the old saying goes "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." We should not be considering non-classical explanations unless they are genuinely necessary, and the only become necessary in contextual cases, which the double-slit experiment is certainly not such a case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

As the old saying goes “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

It may be convenient to look at classical interpretations but "The intuition we evolved to interact with macro systems is also applicable to the micro level" is in itself an extraordinary claim.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Put my head where pendulum is for super powers, got it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My favorite thing about quantum physics is that Schrodinger's Cat was presented as a criticism. It was the most ridiculous extension of quantum superposition that Schrodinger could come up with. But then all the quantum physicists went, "YES! That's a perfect way to explain it. Let's teach that to middle schoolers!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Specifically a criticism of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics. Schrödinger’s thought experiment is intended to make a person consider where/when the wave function is supposed to collapse.

Pilot-wave theory is another interesting interpretation. I feel like it’s a much more “intuitive” interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually very fond of elements of the pilot wave concept.

I think there is a pilot wave, and I think it's in an inaccessible dimension, and I also think whatever drives it also obeys quantum weirdnesses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Pilot wave isn't another dimension. It exists in configuration space which is a concept of quantum mechanics in general. What pilot wave provides is a deterministic narrative for quantum mechanics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem with pilot wave is it's non-local, and so it contradicts with special relativity and cannot be made directly compatible with the predictions of quantum field theory. The only way to make it compatible would be to throw out special relativity and rewrite a whole new theory of spacetime with a preferred foliation built in that could reproduce the same predictions as special relativity, and so you end up basically having to rewrite all of physics from the ground-up.

I also disagree that it's intuitive. It's intuitive when we're talking about the trajectories of particles, but all its intuition disappears when we talk about any other property at all, like spin. You don't even get a visualization of what's going on at all when dealing with quantum circuits. Since my focus is largely on quantum computing, I tend to find pilot wave theory very unhelpful.

Personally, I find the most intuitive interpretation a modification of the Two-State Vector Formalism where you replace the two state vectors with two vectors of expectation values. This gives you a very unambiguous and concrete picture of what's going on. Due to the uncertainty principle, you always start with limited information on the system, you build out a list of expectation values assigned to each observable, and then take into account how those will swap around as the system evolves (for example, if you know X=+1 but don't know Y, and an interaction has the effect of swapping X with Y, then now you know Y=+1 and don't know X).

This alone is sufficient to reproduce all of quantum mechanics, but it still doesn't explain violations of Bell inequalities. You explain that by just introducing a second vector of expectation values to describe the final state of the system and evolve it backwards in time. This applies sufficient constraints on the system to explain violations of Bell inequalities in local realist terms, without having to introduce anything to the theory and with a mostly classical picture.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

I remember explaining something regarding special relativity to my colleagues once, and they replied that I must be wrong because "That doesn't make sense at all". Of course it doesn't make sense, that's how you know I'm right!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was into quantum books until I read the book with word "quantum" in description that had a story about guy who imagines diamonds in his head and they appear in real world. After that I stopped reading quantum books.

It's "The Holographic Universe: The Revolutionary Theory of Reality" - it have very good reviews.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man, that's me with elertroweak unification. I didn't really understand the weak force to begin with, so it being unified with another is so far beyond my capacity I just have to call it magic

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

electroweak unification

Oh, that's easy! Just take your understanding of how spontaneous symmetry breaking works in QCD, apply it to the Higgs field instead, toss in the Higgs mechanism, and suddenly SU(2) × U(1) becomes electromagnetism plus weak force!

(/s)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks for that. My eyeballs retreated into my skull and made their escape through my ears. They just texted me from florida.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Quantum Scientists: Hey, man, you just don't get it.

Hipster Artists: Hey, man, you just don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

superdeterminism gang represent ✌️

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The thing is I agree with nearly every premise of superdeterminism. But the conclusions seem stretched.

I love the idea of not abiding to the strict assumptions set forth by Bell’s theorem. The idea that determinism doesn’t have to hide within the simple hidden variable model bell’s theorem disproves to be true. The idea that we are essentially always part of the experimental system. The questioning of the objective rational experimenter with free will ideal.

Yet I haven’t seen any serious mechanism explaining how the required correlations between experimenter choices and particle states could have been embedded in the universe’s initial conditions in such a finely tuned manner, given that experimentally, the outcomes are indistinguishable from standard quantum mechanics.. I just can’t imagine how this could likely be the case without adding quasi-conspiratorial assumption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, effectively superdeterminism's natural conclusion is that time is an illusion. Everything that will be was already fixed at the start of the universe.

But turning this back on itself, what's the proposed mechanism for quantum wave collapse at superluminal speeds?

Our understanding is fundamentally flawed, but thankfully the math works!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My impression from the literature is that superdeterminism is not the position of rejecting an asymmetrical arrow of time. In fact, it tries to build a model that can explain violations of Bell inequalities completely from the initial conditions evolved forwards in time exclusively.

Let's imagine you draw a coin from box A and it's random, and you draw coins from box B and it's random, but you find a peculiar feature where if you switch from A to B, the first coin you draw from B is always the last you drew from A, and then it goes back to being random. You repeat this many times and it always seems to hold. How is that possible if they're independent of each other?

Technically, no matter how many coins you draw, the probability of it occurring just by random chance is never zero. It might get really really low, but it's not zero. A very specific initial configuration of the coins could reproduce that.

Superdeterminism is just the idea that there are certain laws of physics that restrict the initial configurations of particles at the very beginning of the universe, the Big Bang, to guarantee their evolution would always maintain certain correlations that allow them to violate Bell inequalities. The laws don't continue to apply moment-by-moment, they just apply once when the universe "decides" its initial conditions, by restricting certain possible configurations.

It's not really an interpretation because it requires you to posit these laws and restrictions, and so it really becomes a new theory since you have to introduce new postulates, but such a theory would in principle then allow you to evolve the system forwards from its initial conditions in time to explain every experimental outcome.

As a side note, you can trivially explain violations of Bell inequalities in local realist terms without even introducing anything new to quantum theory just by abandoning the assumption of time-asymmetry. This is called the Two-State Vector Formalism and it's been well-established in the literature for decades. If A causes B and B causes C, in the time-reverse, C causes B and B causes A. if you treat both as physically real, then B would have enough constraints placed upon it by A and C taken together (by evolving the wave function from both ends to where they meet at B) to violate Bell inequalities.

That's already pretty much a feature built-in to quantum theory and allows you to interpret it in local realist terms if you'd like, but it requires you to accept that the microscopic world is genuinely indifferent to the arrow-of-time and the time-forwards and the time-reversed evolution of a system are both physically real.

However, this time-symmetric view is not superdeterminism. Superdeterminism is time-asymmetric just like most every other viewpoint (Copenhagen, MWI, pilot wave, objective collapse, etc). Causality goes in one temporal direction and not the other. The time-symmetric interpretation is its own thing and is mathematically equivalent to quantum mechanics so it is an actual interpretation and not another theory.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Hidden-variable cult skulking in the background 🫥

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Quantum mechanics becomes massively simpler to interpret once you recognize that the wave function is just a compressed list of expectation values for the observables of a system. An expectation value is like a weighted probability. They can be negative because the measured values can be negative, such as for qubits, the measured values can be either +1 or -1, and if you weight by -1 then it can become negative. For example, an expectation value of -0.5 means there is a 25% chance of +1 and a 75% of -1.

If I know for certain that X=+1 but I have no idea what Y is, and the physical system interacts with something that we know will have the effect of swapping its X and Y components around, then this would also swap my uncertainty around so now I would know that Y=+1 without knowing what X is. Hence, if you don't know the complete initial conditions of a system, you can represent it with a list of all of possible observables and assign each one an expectation value related to your certainty of measuring that value, and then compute how that certainty is shifted around as the system evolves.

The wave function then just becomes a compressed form of this. For qubits, the expectation value vector grows at a rate of 4^N where N is the number of qubits, but the uncertainty principle limits the total bits of information you can have at a single time to 2^N, so the vector is usually mostly empty (a lot of zeros). This allows you to mathematically compress it down to a wave function that also grows by 2^N, making it the most concise way to represent this.

But the notation often confuses people, they think it means particles are in two places at once, that qubits are 0 and 1 at the same time, that there is some "collapse" that happens when you make a measurement, and they frequently ask what the imaginary components mean. But all this confusion just stems from notation. Any wave function can be expanded into a real-valued list of expectation values and you can evolve that through the system rather than the wave function and compute the same results, and then the confusion of what it represents disappears.

When you write it out in this expanded form, it's also clear why the uncertainty principle exists in the first place. A measurement is a kind of physical interaction between a record-keeping system and the recorded system, and it should result in information from the recorded system being copied onto the record-keeping system. Physical interactions are described by an operator, and quantum theory has certain restrictions on what qualifies as a physically valid operator: it has to be time-reversible, preserve handedness, be completely positive, etc, and these restrictions prevent you from constructing an operator that can copy a value of an observable from one system onto another in a way that doesn't perturb its other observables.

Most things in quantum theory that are considered "weird" are just misunderstandings, some of which can even be reproduced classically. Things like double-slit, Mach–Zehnder interferometer, the Elitzur–Vaidman "paradox," the Wigner's friend "paradox," the Schrodinger's cat "paradox," the Deutsch algorithm, quantum encryption and key distribution, quantum superdense coding, etc, can all be explained entirely classically just by clearing up some confusion about the notation.

This narrows it down to only a small number of things that genuinely raise an eyebrow, those being cases that exhibit what is sometimes called quantum contextuality, such as violations of Bell inequalities. It inherently requires a non-classical explanation for this, but I don't think that also means it can't be something understandable.

The simplest explanation I have found in the literature is that of time-symmetry. It is a requirement in quantum mechanics that every operator is time-symmetric, and that famously leads to the problem of establishing an arrow of time in quantum theory. Rather than taking it to be a problem, we can instead presume that there is a good reason nature demands all its microscopic operators are time-symmetric: because the arrow of time is a macroscopic phenomena, not a microscopic one.

If you have a set of interactions between microscopic particles where A causes B and B causes C, if I played the video in the reverse, it is mathematically just as valid to say that C causes B and B causes A. Most people then introduce an additional postulate that says "even though it is mathematically valid, it's not physically valid, we should only take the evolution of the system in a single direction of time seriously." You can't derive that postulate from quantum theory, you just have to take it on faith.

If we drop that postulate and take the local evolution of the system seriously in both its time-forwards evolution and its time-reversed evolution, then you can explain violations of Bell inequalities without having to add anything to the theory at all, and interpret it completely in intuitive local realist terms. You do this using the Two-State Vector Formalism where all you do is compute the evolution of the wave function (or expectation values) from both ends until they meet at an intermediate point, and that gives you enough constraints to deterministically derive a weak value at that point. The weak value is a physical variable that evolves locally and deterministically with the system and contains sufficient information to generate its expectation values when needed.

You still can't always assign a definite value, but these expectation values are epistemic, there is no contradiction with there being a definite value as the weak value contains all the information needed for the correct expectation values, and therefore the correct probability distribution, locally within the particle.

In terms of computation, it's very simple, because for the time-reverse evolution you just treat the final state as the initial state and then apply the operators in reverse with their time-symmetric equivalents (Hermitian transpose) and then the weak value equation looks exactly like the expectation value equation except rather than having the same wave function on both ends of the observable, you have the reverse-evolved wave function on one end of the observable and the forwards-evolved wave function on the other. (You can also plug the expectation value vectors on both ends and it works as well.)

Nothing about this is hard to visualize because you just imagine playing a moving forwards and also playing it in the reverse, and in both directions you get a local causal chain of interactions between the particles. If A causes B and B causes C in the time-forwards movie, playing the movie in reverse you will see C cause B which then causes A. That means B is both caused by A and C, and thus is influenced by both through a local chain of interactions.

There is nothing "special" going on in the backwards evolution, the laws of physics are symmetrical so, visually, it is not distinguishable from its forwards evolution, so you visualize it the exact same way, so you can pretty much still maintain a largely classical picture in your head, just with the caveat that you have to consider both directions in order to place enough constraints on the system to explain the observed results. All the "paradoxes" suddenly evaporate away because you can just compute how the system locally evolves in any "weird" situation and look at exactly what is going on.

That is enough to explain QM in local realist terms, doesn't require any modifications to the theory, and has been well-established in the literature for decades, is easy to visualize, but people often seem to favor explanations that are impossible to visualize, like treating the wave function as a literal object despite the wave function being, at times, even infinite-dimensional for continuous observables, or even believing we all live in an infinite-dimensional multiverse. And then they all complain it's impossible to visualize and so confusing and "no one understands quantum mechanics"... I don't understand why people seem to prefer to think about things in a way that they themselves admit just leads to endless confusion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

suspension of disbelief is a requirement

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's called "shut up and calculate"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's so hard to understand about subatomic particles doing anything, everything, and nothing simultaneously everywhere at all times for no reason? It all cancels out in time for Newtonian Physics to take over anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

I cannot intuitively grasp that I'm holding a ball in my hand that is 10 to the umpteenth power particles, each of which is made of smaller particles, each of which is everywhere in the universe at the same time all at once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How much research is being done on the parts of quantum physics that would allow me to be in two places at once?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Chainsaws have existed for quite a while already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Those were invented to separate two people.