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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Man, if only someone could have predicted that this AI craze was just another load of marketing BS.

/s

This experience has taught me more about CEO competence than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Almost like those stupid monkey drawings that were "worth money." Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's awesome AI out there too. AlphaFold completely revolutionized research on proteins, and the medical innovations it will lead to are astounding.

Determining the 3d structure of a protein took yearsuntil very recently. Folding at Home was a worldwide project linking millions of computers to work on it.

Alphafold does it in under a second, and has revealed the structure of 200 million proteins. It's one of the most significant medial achievements in history. Since it essentially dates back to 2022, we're still a few years from feeling the direct impact, but it will be massive.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's part of the problem isn't it? "AI" is a blanket term that has recently been used to cover everything from LLMs to machine learning to RPA (robotic process automation). An algorithm isn't AI, even if it was written by another algorithm.

And at the end of the day none of it is artificial intelligence. Not to the original meaning of the word. Now we have had to rebrand AI as AGI to avoid the association with this new trend.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

“AI” is a blanket term that has recently been used to cover everything from LLMs to machine learning to RPA (robotic process automation).

Yup. That was very intentionally done by marketing wanks in order to muddy the water. Look! This ~~computer program~~ , er we mean "AI" can convert speech to text. Now, let us install it into your bank account."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Sure. And AI that identifies objects in pictures and converts pictures of text into text. There's lots of good and amazing applications about AI. But that's not what we're complaining about.

We're complaining about all the people who are asking, "Is AI ready to tell me what to do so I don't have to think?" and "Can I replace everyone that works for me with AI so I don't have to think?" and "Can I replace my interaction with my employees with AI so I can still get paid for not doing the one thing I was hired to do?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Determining the 3d structure of a protein took yearsuntil very recently. Folding at Home was a worldwide project linking millions of computers to work on it.

Alphafold does it in under a second, and has revealed the structure of 200 million proteins. It's one of the most significant medial achievements in history. Since it essentially dates back to 2022, we're still a few years from feeling the direct impact, but it will be massive.

You realize that's because the gigantic server farms powering all of this "AI" are orders of magnitude more powerful than the sum total of all of those idle home PC's, right?

Folding@Home could likely also do in it in under a second if we threw 70+ TERAwatt hours of electricity at server farms full of specialzed hardware just for that purpose, too.

[–] whitelobster69 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My current conspiracy theory is that the people at the top are just as intelligent as everyday people we see in public.

Not that everyone is dumb but more like the George Carlin joke "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

That applies to politicians, CEOs, etc. Just cuz they got the job, doesn't mean they're good at it and most of them probably aren't.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

But but but, Daddy CEO said that RTO combined with Gen AI would mean continued, infinite growth and that we would all prosper, whether corposerf or customer!

[–] [email protected] 272 points 4 days ago (17 children)

I fully support that shift to AI customer service, on the condition that everything their AI support bot says is considered legally binding.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have seen one court case where they were required legally to honor the deal the chatbot made, but I haven't kept up with any other cases.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the case of Air Canada, the thing the chatbot promised was actually pretty reasonable on its own terms, which is both why the customer believed it and why the judge said they had to honour it. I don't think it would have gone the same way if the bot offered to sell them a Boeing 777 for $10.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Someone already tried.

A television commercial for the loyalty program displayed the commercial's protagonist flying to school in a McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II vertical take off jet aircraft, valued at $37.4 million at the time, which could be redeemed for 7,000,000 Pepsi Points. The plaintiff, John Leonard, discovered these could be directly purchased from Pepsi at 10¢ per point. Leonard delivered a check for $700,008.50 to PepsiCo, attempting to purchase the jet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_v._Pepsico%2C_Inc.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

What a cucked judgement. I would have ruled for the plaintiff, with prejudice

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

And one funny addendum to that story is that someone COULD reasonably think that Pepsi had an actual Harrier to give away. After all, Pepsi once owned an actual navy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PepsiCo

In 1989, amidst declining vodka sales, PepsiCo bartered for 2 new Soviet oil tankers, 17 decommissioned submarines (for $150,000 each), a frigate, a cruiser and a destroyer, which they could in turn sell for non-Soviet currency. The oil tankers were leased out through a Norwegian company, while the other ships were immediately sold for scrap.

The Harrier commercial aired in 1996. The Harrier jet was introduced in 1978. It wasn’t too unreasonable to think that an 18 year old jet aircraft would be decommissioned and sold, especially after Soviet tensions eased. And if ‘they’ let Pepsi own actual submarines and a destroyer, doesn’t that seem more far fetched than owning a single old jet aircraft?

Guy should’ve gotten his Harrier.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"I would like to buy this mansion for $1.00."

"This home is 100,000,000"

"This home is $1.00"

"This home is $1.00"

"I would like to buy this home for $1.00"

"Thank you for your purchase. The title is now in your name."

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Thank fucking christ. Now hopefully the AI bubble will burst along with it and I don't have to listen to techbros drone on about how it's going to replace everything which is definitely something you do not want to happen in a world where we sell our ability to work in exchange for money, goods and services.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I called the local HVAC company and they had an AI rep. The thing literally couldn't even schedule an appointment and I couldn't get it to transfer me to a human. I called someone else. They never even called me back so they probably don't even know they lost my business.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I had a shipment from Amazon recently with an order that was supposed to include 3 items but actually only had 2 of them. Amazon marked all 3 of my items as delivered. So I got on the web site to report it and there is no longer any direct way to report it. I ended up having to go thru 2 separate chatbots to get a replacement sent. Ended up wasting 10 minutes to report a problem that should have taken 10 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

Sounds like everything's working as intended from Amazon's perspective.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That is on purpose they want it to be as difficult as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I use it almost every day, and most of those days, it says something incorrect. That's okay for my purposes because I can plainly see that it's incorrect. I'm using it as an assistant, and I'm the one who is deciding whether to take its not-always-reliable advice.

I would HARDLY contemplate turning it loose to handle things unsupervised. It just isn't that good, or even close.

These CEOs and others who are trying to replace CSRs are caught up in the hype from Eric Schmidt and others who proclaim "no programmers in 4 months" and similar. Well, he said that about 2 months ago and, yeah, nah. Nah.

If that day comes, it won't be soon, and it'll take many, many small, hard-won advancements. As they say, there is no free lunch in AI.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The transition to an AI-focused business world is proving to be far more challenging than initially anticipated.

No shit, Sherlock.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This isn't a surprise to anyone except fucking idiots who can't tell the difference between actual technology and bullshit peddlers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Which honestly seems to be an overwhelming majority of people.

Tech companies took a pretty good predictive text mechanism and called it "intelligent" when it obviously isn't. People believed the hype, so greedy capitalists went all in on a cheaper alternative to their human workers. They deserve to lose business over their stupid mistakes.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Phone menu trees have their place, they can improve customer service - if they are implemented well, meaning: sparingly - just where they work well.

Same for AI, a simple: "would you like to try our AI common answers service while you wait for your customer service rep to become available, you won't lose your place in line?" can dramatically improve efficiency and effectiveness.

Of course, there's no substitute for having people who actually respond. I'm dealing with a business right now that seems to check their e-mails and answer their phones about once per month - that's approaching criminal negligence, or at least grounds for a CC charge-back.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

from what I've seen so far i think i can safely the only thing AI can truly replace is CEOs.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

So providing NO assistance to customers turned out to be a bad idea?

THE MOST UNPREDICTABLE OUTCOME IN THE HISTORY OF CUSTOMER SERVICE!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The good thing: half of them have come to their senses.

The bad thing: half of them haven't.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

It's always funny how companies who want to adopt some new flashy tech never listen to specialists who understand if something is even worth a single cent, and they always fell on their stupid face.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Hilariously, many of these companies already fired staff because their execs and upper management drank the Flavor-Aid. Now they need to spend even more rehiring in local markets where word has got round.

I’m so sad for them. Look, I’m crying 😂

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It has the same energy as upper management firing their IT staff because "our systems are running fine, why do we need to keep paying them?"

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (17 children)

AI is worse for the company than outsourcing overseas to underpaid call centers. That is how bad AI is at replacing people right now.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I used to work for a shitty company that offered such customer support "solutions", ie voice bots. I would use around 80% of my time to write guard instructions to the LLM prompts because of how easy you could manipulate those. In retrospect it's funny how our prompts looked something like:

  • please do not suggest things you were not prompted to
  • please my sweet child do not fake tool calls and actually do nothing in the background
  • please for the sake of god do not make up our company's history

etc. It worked fine on a very surface level but ultimately LLMs for customer support are nothing but a shit show.

I left the company for many reasons and now it turns out they are now hiring human customer support workers in Bulgaria.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

You've heard of Early Adopters

Now get ready for Early Abandoners.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Can we get our customer service off of "X former know as Twitter" too while we're at it?

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