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Years earlier, she had asked a boss if he would let his children fly on a plane with the litany of flaws and non-conformances he was urging her to “pencil-whip”: “Cindy, none of these planes are staying in America, they’re all going overseas,” he retorted, much to her horror.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

Boeing…Boeing…Gone!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Boeing: the sound a plane makes when it hits the ground

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

or when the front falls off midflight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they don't usually do that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only sometimes! And the door goes pop! Too!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

and thier spacecraft is haunted, making those mysterious sounds while in flight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'll tell you, that's not supposed to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Too early to make assumptions.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know why the 2008 financial crisis happened? Banks sold assets under the assumption that their credit rating was intact.

Sure, I would afford Airbus every benefit of a doubt, but sorry, Boeing is building a track record which none of us should ignore. My speculation is warranted.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not to mention, they definitely offed a whistleblower. The guy specifically told his family and friends that he was not suicidal, and had no intent whatsoever to take his own life… and then is found dead after missing a testimony date.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Of course a suicide would have advance knowledge of their own death. It's not unusual for suicidal people to lie about their own mental health. Especially to their closest loved ones.

What you point out could only support a vague suspicion; a motive to look for compelling evidence. Hanging a whole murder conspiracy on evidence this thin is not the product of critical thought.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like the planes Boeing sent to India had foreign object debris rattling around inside conduits.

That’s a ticking time bomb for random electrical failures, such as both engines shutting down right after takeoff.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

If it was from electrical failure, it'd be more likely to happen in the pilot's thrust control than simultaneously in both engines. But usually if both engines fail after take off....my money is on fuel system failure.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago

A rich executive put the lives of others below penny pinching profits?

I'm shook. 🫩

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I recently had the privilege of cleaning up code by a big India out sourcing company. The code quality was some of the worst I have seen in my 30 years of programming. Then I found [this article] (https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers) about the same company writing code for Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that was a horrifying read as a software engineer but also as an Indian.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I am genuinely curious why on Earth airline companies are still buying Boeing planes. The last 5-10 crashes all included their planes and it is a mystery why their shares didn't tank more.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because the stock market is a fucking scam.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's gambling for the rich and people who want to be rich.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's gambling for the people who want to be rich. It's a bank and tax haven for those who are already rich.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, yes, but what does that have to do with their question?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is a mystery why their shares didn’t tank more

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Because what are you gonna do? Not fly?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, that would be the sensible thing to do. Too bad that people are not sensible.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Airbus has a backlog of 8000 jets. Order one today and it will take a decade before it arrives. So airliners basically have to keep their current fleet flying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

they probably already bought too many of Boeing planes before these accidents happened. So what are they gonna do, put a bunch of Boeing planes in the back room and use Airbus? Still when i fly, I avoid Boeing like a plague. The problem is there are very limited Airbus flights for my route.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Planes they already have can't really be grounded immediately without replacements. Buying replacements takes time and money. Negotiating contracts also takes time. Pre existing contracts tying a company to boeing probably exist in some places. There's probably some incentive to not drop a somewhat strategic business on a whim. And maybe some people believe that boeing will start pulling their head out of their ass at some point.

And all that would be a hindrance assuming there is a will to stop buying boeing planes, AND move to another, potentially foreign business like Airbus.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Boeing is run too much by Wall Street.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Black Rock basically owns the entire stock market. Even the best intentioned companies eventually have to cave to fiduciary duty to shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Black Rock owns absolutely fuck-all. It only manages the 401ks of normal people like you and me, and STOLE OUR SHAREHOLDER VOTING RIGHTS.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah these headlines always grind my gears. Even the equity they don't steal, they leverage as if their own assets. They're fucking mine and yours.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

No, it really doesn't. Assets under management (not owned) 11.5 trillion, while the American stock market alone is worth around 50.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What capitalist giant corp isn't?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_private_non-governmental_companies_by_revenue

Including such recognizable names as Aldi, State Farm, Deloitte, Ingram Micro, and Ikea.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Boeing is straight fucking scum, but that was the strangest plane crash I've ever seen. (LOL, like I'm an export.) The truth will out.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

i've seen one, where the plane stalled after taking off and then kinda went backwards, then dove frontal again. if i remember correctly, unsecured cargo was suspected. it fell like a leaf.

found it: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/may/01/747-cargo-plane-crash-bagram-airbase-video

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember that, if I remember correctly, it was a tank, and they suddenly had a massive CoG shift to the back of the aircraft, causing the plane to pitch up and stall.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Ya it was military equipment that was not secured appropriately.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is crazy, it looked like CGI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

a game glitching.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah.... The article is conflating power failure with engine failure. It was a very odd plane crash, and it didn't appear that they had power failure. It looks like they lost thrust on both engines, which is really rare in multiengine aircraft.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yep, another Boeing mystery crash where everything stopped working at once.

I'm kinda suspicious that the critical moments weren't actually missing from Jeju Air's black boxes when they were delivered to the US.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I hope a third player balances things out. I don't care if it is Bombardier, Embraer, Comac or some other company. Just need the Airbus-Boeing duopoly broken.

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