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Submission Statement

Between 2001 and 2021, under four U.S. presidents, the United States spent approximately $2.3 trillion, with 2,459 American military fatalities and up to 360,000 estimated Afghan civilian deaths.

After the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in August 2021, approximately $7.12 billion worth of military equipment was left behind, according to a 2022 Department of Defense report. This equipment, transferred to the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) from 2005 to 2021, included:

Weapons: Over 300,000 of 427,300 weapons, including rifles like M4s and M16s.  
Vehicles: More than 40,000 of 96,000 military vehicles, including 12,000 Humvees and 1,000 armored vehicles.  
Aircraft: 78 aircraft, valued at $923.3 million, left at Hamid Karzai International Airport, all demilitarized and rendered inoperable.  
Munitions: 9,524 air-to-ground munitions worth $6.54 million, mostly non-precision.  
Communications and Specialized Equipment: Nearly all communications gear (e.g., radios, encryption devices) and 42,000 pieces of night vision, surveillance, biometric, and positioning equipment.  

The total equipment provided to the ANDSF was valued at $18.6 billion, with the $7.12 billion figure representing what remained after the withdrawal. Much of this equipment is now under Taliban control, though its operational capability is limited due to the need for specialized maintenance and technical expertise.

The United States has provided at least $93.41 billion in total aid to Afghanistan since 2001. This includes:

Military Aid (2001–2020): Approximately $72.7 billion (in current dollars), primarily through the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund ($71.7 billion) and other programs like International Military Education and Training, Foreign Military Financing, and Peacekeeping Operations ($1 billion combined).  

Humanitarian and Reconstruction Aid (2001–2025): Around $20.71 billion, including $3 billion in humanitarian and development aid post-2021 and $3.5 billion in frozen Afghan assets transferred to the Afghan Fund in 2022. Pre-2021 reconstruction and humanitarian aid (e.g., $174 million in 2001 and $300 million pledged in 2002) adds to this, though exact figures for the full period are less clear.  
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

before that it was the mujahadeen trained by SEALs/special operations, turned taliban.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Man, am I glad that never backfired.

Still, we got Charlie Wilson's War out of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

and how long did it take the USA to have a actual Dicktator

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (11 children)
[–] FistingEnthusiast 30 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Because yanks have always thought that they're somehow special, that things will be different when they do it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

This is correct.

And we didn't learn our lesson from the Vietnamese, because most people here aren't able to read above a third-grade level.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Actually, most yanks don't feel this way. Big business, CIA/FBI, Gov't wants resources, weapon sales, drug and human trafficking, all things to keep the rich ....rich. They use the two party system, which is really a uni-party system controlled by them, to keep the masses fighting amongst themselves while they proceed with war and taking away human rights under war-times.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"Invade Afghanistan, you will regret it," is one of history's NCDish lessons. Like:

  • Don't invade Russia in winter.
  • Don't let Germany get too economically depressed.
  • Don't let the Chinese people get too unhappy with their govt.

Iran feels geographically close enough to inherit the curse for sure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Iran has been invaded quite a few times with rather satisfying results for those doing the invasions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

And most important:

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I learned 2 important lesson from this.

  1. You can't bomb people into liking you.

  2. Most people don't give a shit about number 1.

Edit: AutoIncorrect got me.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a K/d ratio of 147:1

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Throw another 20 years at it

Hell, throw another 100 years at it, it wouldn't make a difference

Doesn't even matter which country invades, it won't hold it for long.

Even Alexander the Great only briefly held it for 25 years after defeating Darius III

The people didn't want us there and we weren't interested in forcing ourselves on them like some kind of brutal Soviet satellite state

The rampant unchecked corruption was way worse than we thought and it was a major consideration for pulling out

Can't help people who are unwilling to help themselves

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The war in Afghanistan was never about helping anyone. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

not about helping anyone

Cancer is how americans show love.

That and bombing your village.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

And we're supposed to believe these people are smart enough for nukes? I wonder how many of the people in this photo can actually read or write?

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