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[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

OMG that's hilarious. We haven't declared war since WWII. But how many presidents have done just that? Good luck with that argument.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

“I don’t care what that old paper says” -Trump

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Diaper Don gonna order brown people to get bombed so he 'looks like a tough man".

Fuck that guy and everyone who voted for him. Or chose not to vote. Fuck you even more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

There is absolutely ZERO reason to believe that those who didnt vote would have voted for Harris. In fact, every person I know who didnt vote are trump defenders. Every one. Every. Single. One.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck you even more.

I've never understood this pov. Sure you can say no vote was the same thing as a vote for trump, but surely the people that actually voted for him are worse, no? I can understand 'fuck you just as much', but even more?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

It's the apathy, or the belief that it somehow doesn't matter. To quote Walter Sobchak:

Nihilists, fuck me. Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it's an ethos.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

"Looks like a tough man". Is this really the level of political comprehension we're working with? No wonder you idiots elected a fascist. Are all of you 12? Go back to playing fortnight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

He's not wrong. Definition of genocide and war crimes are also pretty clearly enshrined. As are our countries laws against funding them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

yhea, Have you seen the news?

rule of law is dead in the US

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Went thru the same shit with Bush 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Indeed. Congress had 20 years to put up some guard rails, but didn't.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago

Congress has been shirking their responsibility to declare wars since the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964. They gave Presidents the power to carry out military actions abroad without a formal declaration. By passing the responsibility on to the president, Congress gets to avoid the blame for unpopular wars.

Even the Vietnam "War" which lasted 10 years, was never declared by Congress.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Come on it is not a war, but a special military operation....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

A "Police Action."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The constitution means nothing. Trump wipes his ass with it and there’s no consequences

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

SCOTUS ignored common law practice and decided to go literal with the interpretation of a document written 200 years ago

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Remember Vietnam?

The president has the power to deploy the military even without a declaration

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

In the sense that if you take power you don't deserve you have it

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately our Constitution isn’t worth the paper its gift shop reproductions are printed on. Unfortunately, it’s been that way for a long, long time.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

If they haven’t noticed. Trump does whatever the fuck he wants. If he ignores the ruling of courts, do they think he will read a post on X and be like “oh shit, you’re right.” No, posts on X are fucking useless. He will ignore congress like he does everything else. His ego is severely damaged after the little parade and leaders not worshipping him at G7. He is realizing his place in the food chain and looking for a win to boost his ego.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Yeah unfortunately that is not actually the way the law is written Bernie. Wish it was.

Short version, the president gets to deploy the military where ever he wishes (outside the US, posse comitatus etc). That includes invading a sovereign nation or raining missiles down on one.

Only congress has the power to declare a war, but the Potus gets to defacto kick off the war and then dare congress not to back him.

After it was either 60 or 90 days, I forget, congress gets to "review" the decision, the problem is they have no power other than financial if they wish to stop the war. So the only thing they can do is turn off the finances to the military, and wait for the money to run out - which is generally up to a year. They have no way of forcing the president to desist other than impeachment or cutting off the funds.

They can pass a motion, or even legislation, which the Prez can then veto, pointless. If they can muster the 2/3rds of congress they can remove him via impeachment.

Edit, spelling correction and to note that I can pull out the full details if needed - was discussed heavily on reddit a while ago

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

This is how we ended up with the Iran-Contra Scandal. The Reagan administration wanted to fight the growing communist forces in Nicaragua, but Congress forbid them, and denied them funding.

They decided to find the money by selling highly inflated arms to our bitterest enemy at the time, IRAN, only a few short years after they had held our Embassy officials hostage for over a year.

They took the profits of those illegal arms sales, and used it to finance their illegal war on Central America.

So these traitors don't even take no for an answer when Congress shuts off the money tap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

What congress can do is refuse to pay for the war/police action. They still need to write the checks. Wars don't last long with out money.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its like choosing the president is a really important decision.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But genocidal Kamala is just as bad! I was informed about it multiple times by accounts on .ml (and not all of them are operating exclusively during Moscow working hours)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Biden/Harris would have done something similar to defend Israel from the consequences of its actions. Biden did bomb Yemen after all when it tried to stop the genocide. Biden is a self admitted Zionist and defended Israel’s invasion of Lebanon and supported the invasion of Iraq. Harris did nothing to distance herself from him.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, do you have a magical alternate reality viewer that shows Kamala not doing the same exact thing except whinging along the way about "working tirelessly" to avoid the thing that is currently happening with zero repercussions for the aggressor state... ? Come on, don't forget the president that kept warning about non-existent red lines as Palestinians were being (and still are!) slaughtered by the thousands, and literally bypassed congress to send munitions to Israel despite this. Y'know, the thing that will now be super bad when Trump does it?

At least we & our government officials don't have to pretend this is fucking normal just because the president is super duper apologetic about it and pinky promises that they care about all the lives involved but conspicuously only mentioning the ones belonging to the aggressor nation!!!1!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounds like more should have been done to prevent trump even getting on the ballot while his opposition was still in power. Oh wait, but then they couldn't run on "trump bad" and would actually have to champion something for the people to get their votes. Oh well!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Impeach Trump #NOKINGS

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Ummm, has that ever stopped any president, ever?

[–] [email protected] 182 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Ok, so he breaks the law, AGAIN… that’ll be how many times? And how many consequences? And how will he be punished? Who will punish him? Remember, this is an insurrectionist that the administration from 17-21 did not go after because it would have been “taken as political”. So, again, who cares what the law says, because he doesn’t.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Even if we ignore the fact that he can easily coax our useless congress into agreeing, the entire government has done nothing but dance around this requirement ever since the end of WWII. You won't see a congressional declaration of war unless its literally WWIII.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, we're waiting, any day now, determine away you useless feckless fuck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

He’s. it useless. He’s just alone. AOC and him are the only Democrats speaking out throughout this whole shit show

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The POTUS has a window of discretion where he can act unilaterally without congressional approval. And they ALL have done so over many terms.

The hard stop is when congress needs to appropriate funds to pay for the war/police action.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe we need to take away those powers and put Congress in control.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Can we not pretend like this hasn’t happened numerous times in the past. The US hasn’t been in a war since WW2 and yet somehow we keep ending up killing people in other countries.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I think most of those congressional powers have been eroded for a very long time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And people really think congress wouldnt vote for war? Lol...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Seems pretty epicly pointless to try to force a vote against Israel's interests in the US congress. It will be unanimously shot down, like every other bill that Israel has any interest in.. Sanders know this. So why is he pretending a vote in congress is the big goal that we need to make noise about?

Sanders wont even call the war on Palestine a genocide. If he wants to actually do something effective here he should be forcing AIPAC to be registered as a foreign lobby, like JFK tried to do right before he was assassinated. Otherwise Bernie is just wasting everyone's time, and keeping the left busy yelling for a vote to happen that we have absolutely zero chance of winning.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Keep pissing into the wind, Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Are the generals going to refuse his orders? Is the legislative going to impeach him? Is anyone in American government going to do the job their very roles exist to do within the framework of power? What happens if he does? What's been happening as he violates the constitution, daily? When he violates the rights protected, seemingly, by nothing but a sheet of fucking parchment?

Whose going to stop him when he tries?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Bernie should be aware of the war powers act. It's one of the worse pieces of legislation ever, but it makes the whole declare war thing largely meaningless.

The act gives a president the ability to perform military actions provided Congress is notified within 48 hours of the action happening. Then the president gets a free 60 days to do whatever without additional approval. Then there's a further 30 days where forces should be withdrawing if there is no further congressional approval. However, that timeline doesn't really matter, as the Supreme Court ruled under Clinton that of troops are gone by the time the case gets to them then it doesn't really matter that the law was violated.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

After watching some of the footage on Saturday, it's annoying to think "these are the people who will need to pull off a coup?"

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