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Autistic guy here and sorry for the political rant. There is a lot of intense and horrific things happening all over the world like the recent war with Iran. But let me say this. If you voted for Trump and your friends and family cut you off because of it, then I do not feel any sympathy for you.

Especially if you have a loved one who is neurodivergent or is special needs. The amount of grief and hopelessness this administration is bringing to thousands, if not millions, of families in the USA is indefensible. Families have been torn apart because of his draconian policies towards immigration. Legal immigrants and regular tourists are being jailed because they committed a minor infraction. Education and social safety programs are being gutted, while the ultra-wealthy keep getting richer and richer.

Canada, Australia and Europe, which we have seen as friends for the previous couple decades, are moving away from the USA after Trump's annexation threats of Canada and withdrawing from several agreements. And I don't fault them for boycotting the USA as there are other friendlier countries to travel to and buy products from. Compared to Europe or Asia, the only good things we have going for us here are the universities and the national parks. Yet Trump and most of his cabinet want to dismantle the national park system and remove all federal funding from these universities. I'm not sad that Canadians and Europeans (and Australians) are boycotting the USA, and at this point, I would happily boycott the USA as well if I didn't live here. I'm sad because I really enjoy talking to international people. Plus many of these cultural ties between certain states and certain provinces (like BC and the NW USA, or Quebec and the Maritimes with New England) have been severely damaged and will be very difficult to repair. What makes traveling fun for me is having fun conversations with international people from all over the world.

All of this to make the USA safer?! Really?!

Now that Roe v. Wade has ben overturned and many states are implementing harsh laws preventing women from getting abortions, the USA will very likely its own Mahsa Amini. And when that happens and another wave of nationwide protests happen, Laken Riley will really be turning in her grave when she finds out her death was used for far-right authoritarian policies to dismantle healthcare for millions of women.

Safer from school shootings and gun violence since Republicans want to ease all gun restrictions? Safer from diseases since there is an anti-vax skeptic who is the secretary of the US health and human services and wants to remove all vaccine requirements? Out of fear that vaccines cause Autism which has been debunked countless times by countless scientists? Safer from pollution now that several environmental regulations have been eased? Safer for plane travel now that majority of the FAA has been fired? Safer traveling out of the country because American citizens (who even have Global Entry) are being put into waiting rooms for hours.

You voted for him to lower the cost of groceries and gas prices?! How is $2.80 per gallon of gas expensive, unless you casually drive a large pickup truck? Due to the tariffs and now the war in Iran, gas and gadgets are going to become A LOT more expensive. People in Oklahoma are going to be in for a very nasty shock when they are suddenly paying Massachusetts prices for utilities and food in a matter of time, unless the entire world can forgive the USA at this point.

If you voted for Trump in 2016, I would still think you have a good heart, even if our political opinions are different. If you voted for Trump in 2024 after Trump proved to the entire world that he has no respect for his political opponents, the constitution and law by putting members of the entire US cabinet in danger on 6 Jan 21, then I don't think you have a good heart and you deserve to be ostracized.

This is why I have such a heard time sympathizing with those who lost friends and family connections because they would rather die of heart failure or cancer than have a well-qualified woman be president, and instead sympathize with those that did cut off friends and family if they voted for Orange Man. I hope everyone who voted for Orange Man will financially suffer. Because we don't have a difference in political opinions. We have a difference in morality and ethics.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because we don’t have a difference in political opinions. We have a difference in morality and ethics.

That exactly is the problem. They claim morality, but don't have them. They claim to be faithful Christians, but Jesus himself would probably take the whip again and drive them out for so violently abuse his teachings.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The people today who claim to be followers of Christ are the same people who 2000 years ago would be shouting "crucify him!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Absolutely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I've heard that autism world view is more governed by values instead of which group you're a part of. The question "describe yourself" was studied and autistic people respond with "conscientious, stubborn, eager to please, sharing and believe firmly in the pursuit of knowledge" while neurotypicals respond rather with "white Christian man from the Midwest" etc.

Honestly, to me it's painfully obvious what Trumps game plan was going to be and there was an example of it before where he enacted the Muslim ban, had an anti Latino sentiment, inhumane detention camps and so on.

It seems to me that the voters didn't feel included in the economy and they felt their way of life was slowly being removed by the Democrats so they voted for fascism. Instead of voting for the bad option they voted for worse because the bad option hadn't been working for them so far.

US politics is a shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

i hope they suffer emotionally as well.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are those who chose to hedge for clout - sit it out in smug virtue, while avoiding accountability for allowing him into office.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Phuck Bryce Hall, Adin Ross, Kai Cenat, Dave Portnoy and especially Andy Tate! They all played a major role in helping Trump get elected.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (35 children)

I haven't spoken to my mother since Jan 19. She voted for this asshole (again). My partner is at risk because of my mother. I may never speak to her again. I still sent flowers on Mother's Day, however.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I lost contact with some of my closest friends in college that I knew for more than a decade because of their politics and other things happening on social media. It's sad, but my parents and I recently moved to another city in a different state so I am forgetting that friendship already.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you voted for Trump...

Sir, this is Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I got extremely yelled at for saying this about the last five presidents.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I feel you bro. It was always headed this way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Every single day.

The 99% who always vote partisan have gaslit themselves into believing some incredibly silly things.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

LOL

"Well-qualified woman"

There are no qualifications for president, and if there were, neither Trump nor Harris would be suitable candidates. What kind of doofus looks at 25% unemployment and tells people to 'just be joyful' for three months of a campaign and says they won't change anything, again in full knowledge of Americans' impoverishment and Biden's unpopularity? (Not to mention her wet fart of a primary campaign in 2020.)

But if you want a woman with half a chance of winning, AOC is literally filling football stadiums in red states right now.

I have sympathy for them. Most Americans didn't vote for Donald out of ideological concerns. They voted Donald because they've gotten progressively poorer for four years while Joe Biden did nothing meaningful to help them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think people are taking the my way or the highway approach to politics. You are suppose to have an extreme view one way or the other and everyone who disagrees is evil.

I think it is the shortcomings of the current political climate

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a first-past-the-post system. It's designed to file everything into either one or the other and everything else is "extreme".

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans are being lied to all day, every day, by complicit corporate media backing an ever more corrupt establishment. This is not exclusive to Republicans by any stretch of the imagination: remember all the people clamouring against the "Bernie Bros"? I'm sure some of the people taking this extreme position against Republican voters were also bashing Bernie Bros and saying "it's her turn".

Where did that get you people, huh? Sanders and AOC extend an olive branch and fill up stadiums, while you continue to try to drive even more wedges between us. "He will not divide us"? You were right, because OP and people like OP are all too happy to drive the wedge in on their own. Trump is not the thing you're fighting against, he's effectively what you're fighting for. Go ahead, keep driving people away to the right and see what happens.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Then it sounds like you have an absolutely normal amount of empathy as an American.
Which I should add is incredibly low, and my greatest shame of being an American myself.

If you can't feel bad for people who don't know they're victims of what may be the longest and most expensive con this nation has ever known, I don't know what else to say.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you can’t feel bad for people who don’t know they’re victims of what may be the longest and most expensive con this nation has ever known, I don’t know what else to say.

I don't feel bad for them because it required willful ignorance, hatred of others, and refusing to acknowledge his first term in office to 'fall for it'.

Fuck 'em. Hope they suffer more than the people who are suffering because of their choices.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This con has been decades in the making. It's not just Rump specifically.

They've been getting groomed since before Regan.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I've been around for decades and it was always an obvious con.

They love Nazis and Russia. Fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Quite literally since birth.

You watch neighbors grow up and mature thinking we'll all reach some kind of educated, experienced consensus. But I've got people I've known since middle school who are so sheep dipped in propaganda they can't tell up from down. And I know more than a few others who have put up with Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo and that assortment of liberal sleeze so long they can't tell the difference between parties.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if Lemmy is the place where the right idiots will see this, but fully agreed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree that they brought it on themselves.

There are a few concepts that are getting muddled here, blameworthyness, and empathy. Both for you as the observer, and they as the subjects.

I don't think it's good to equate the two. They're distinct.

Should a laid-off oil worker struggling to feed their family be worthy of empathy from a republican voter if they themselves had voted Democrat? Would you celebrate the republican proudly declaring they had no empathy?

Would Elon Musk be celebrating your announcement now? He has declared empathy to be weakness, and you've announced that you've managed to squash yours for a large swathe of the population.

People can be to blame for their own pain. Does that mean they deserve no empathy?

And, what have you done to yourself in doing so? What human part of yourself have you killed or let whither to get to where you are now?

It's easy to be empathetic to people who are like yourself. It's more difficult to be empathetic to those different.

Regardless of blameworthyness, I don't think we should be proud of our ability to feel no empathy for others. It may be the case, but that's a personal weakness.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

People can be to blame for their own pain. Does that mean they deserve no empathy?

If they are on the side of evil, gleefully snickering as brown people are loaded onto planes, then yes.

If they don't want to feel the ire of our burning contempt for their low-trust, anti-social behavior, then they shouldn't be doing it. Be on the side of good. Learn to be pro-community, or perish.

This doesn't mean I want them to starve. Though, I wouldn't be strictly opposed to some system whereby welfare is stripped from people who voted against it. Some people just gotta learn from consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

This here is why America is going to collapse. I'm not even saying your wrong to feel the way you do. But the blame is actually on both parties. The division they've created caused a thinking of us vs them. The wars that USA participated in separated the world in the minds of Americans to the point they can't even begin to understand diplomacy or negotiations. The Tucker/Cruz interview didn't just show case American incompetence, but showed the world that Americans don't even think in terms of alliances or unity, only division. And now, now it's eating the country itself. Trump was inevitable, no one in the States wants to hear this. But did the Democrats work to understand Russia, Iran, China? Did they work to understand the issues of S.Korea, Japan? What were your Asian allies concerned about, was it really war with China? What about the Canadians, what are they concerned about, what about Mexicans? You only thought in terms of how they viewed America, never what their views about themselves or the globe as a whole. You closed your eyes to the world, a fascist dictator is what you get.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Me, hypothetically: shoots you

Police: "well really, the blame is on both parties"

See how stupid that statement is? When one is trying to, directly or indirectly, harm the other, no, it's not fucking 'both sides'.

Yeah, there's a fuckload of idiots in the states, but blaming 'both sides' because one is a gullible moron isn't the big brain idea you think it is. We need to educate, and over time it will solve the issue. That's why reps are trying to make it harder for both US citizens and those studying here from abroad, to get an education. A stupid population is easily controlled. That is the problem. Not 'both sides'.

The fact that you want to blame everyone (esp the last sentence) is deplorable, and shows a lack of empathy and understanding about the very topic you spout.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

You didn't read what I wrote at all did you? I'm saying they both created a divisive nation. The division is the problem. If you want to make an analogy it would be both sides pulled the trigger at the same time.

Edit. Actually you exemplify my point. No one listens and instead just repeats their talking points. It's not the issues I'm talking about, it's hearing the argument in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, I did. The fact that you didn't absorb the point I made is just the cherry on top. Division is caused by lack of education.

The irony in your edit is absolutely hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Division is not caused by lack of education. The division is caused by both sides not considering the other sides argument. It's why the Democrats lost so badly the male vote regardless of race. Let's ask this a different way, what are mens problems and why was the whole MRA issue created?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

You could do toxic positivity and say "any Trump voter can be redeemed. Realizing your errors of supporting trump and seeing how it affected people around you is a good start"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Only on the Internet is fundamental responsibility questioned.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What about the people who didn't vote for the orange man, but still lost people because of him?

Roughly a million Americans died because his administration bungled the COVID-19 response because they didn't want to follow the playbook that was clearly laid out for them by the Obama administration.

Some of those Americans did not vote for Trump and still died because of Trump, and some of us who survived lost people who did not vote for Trump but still died because of Trump.

Having no sympathy or empathy for the actual innocent victims would make you a shit person.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

I have no idea how you managed to read OP's post and fuck up the comprehension of it so badly, especially considering that OP put their point in the first fucking paragraph and even bolded it for you:

If you voted for Trump and your friends and family cut you off because of it, then I do not feel any sympathy for you.

How does this ^ have anything whatsoever to do with your off-the-wall crazy-ass interpretation?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Having no sympathy or empathy for the actual innocent victims would make you a shit person.

Generally speaking, Americans do not need extra reasons to avoid feeling empathy.

"Fuck you! You got what you deserved" should be worked into our national anthem by now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is just great thinking

think about it. the Reps can use this endlessly to justify their apparent lack of empathy towards democrats

So under this framework, all the actions they are taking currently are fully justified, not only by themselves, but by the perceived "enemy"

Basically you have pigeonholed yourself into a pickle placed between 2 boulders called "a rock" and "a hard place", as you now cannot complain about anything they do as, well, that's the framework you are spouting about

So all is good with the world when you get shown no empathy

After all, in your heart of hearts, you voted for this 😉

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Collaboration with psychopaths just moves the needle to their side.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Right now they are coping or doing mental gymnastics

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