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Mamdani, a proudly socialist 33-year-old, holds a 44-36 percent lead over over former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo – who was hoping that New Yorkers had short memories, and were ready to re-elect the textbook centrist Democrat.

However, after the disaster of Trump’s first year back in the White House – with everyday American life interrupted by protests, immigration raids, corruption allegations and the unshakebale feeling that the nation is about to enter World War 3… It seems the pendulum is swinging back towards left-wing politics.

It appears that the success of Mamdani isn’t so much a vote against Trumpian politics, but more a vote against the stale nothingness of the Democrats top brass – who, while pitching themselves as the progressive option in America’s political system, very seldom action – or even – offer – left-wing policies.

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[–] [email protected] 170 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Jesus fucking christ, where my crew at?

This is our moment to fucking run it in the faces of the idiots telling us we needed to have candidates with barely left of center politics in this country.

People who have told you you need to accept less from candidates because abwd are the toxic bane that handed us Trump. You can't win elections on being a diet piece of shit; you actually have to stand for some thing.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (25 children)

ABWD refers to "Any Blue Will Do", which is a slogan, ideology, and voting strategy associated with what is now collectively known as "Blue MAGA".

The charitable version of their argument is that we need to just support every D, no matter what. The problem that ABWD creates is two fold. The first problem, is that in effect, the policy works against its self as electoral strategy. It second problem is that it also works against itself as governing strategy. I'm going to refer to these as "anti-strategies" because I think its important to point out that they are thought about and employed as if they are in-fact strategies that could win an election. They make you feel like a smart person, and are regularly used as a cudgel against other approaches, but they are self-defeating: an anti-strategy hurts you, not helps you.

This clip of Whoopi Goldberg saying she would vote for Joe Biden even if he was pooping his pants on stage highlights:

So the issue that ABWD creates in this context is that, even though Whoopi here is clear that she would vote for a candidate so aged that they shit themselves on stage, American voters wont. And this problem is rampant across Democratic primaries. We're constantly getting candidates forced into elections through AIPAC, the DCCC, directly from the DNC, who aren't electable within the Democratic base, for whatever reason. Here, Whoopi has effectively lowered the bar to the floor. And the problem is, that while a pants-shitter might be fine for Whoopi, its not fine for literally everyone else. By insisting on this anti-strategy, that we had to support Biden as the candidate when it was clear he was completely incapable of governing, let alone winning the election (even when Trump was as unpopular as he was), this insistence was basically an instance we lose the election. Its an important historical footnote that Blue MAGA/ ABWD did win the ideological fight that summer. And we lost the 2024 election as a result.

So the second issue with ABWD/ Blue MAGA is that we end up with Blue Dogs, or Democrats that are basically worthless for progressing any Democratic legislative or governance priorities. Effectively, ABWD is used to put conservative, basically Republican Democrats into safe blue districts, which they might hold for decades. A classic example of this was AOC versus Crowley, where Crowley held the house seat responsible for Queens, NY, one of the most progressive house district populations there is. And he REGULARLY defeated, shut down any kind of progressive legislation. There are many, many others, for example, Ed Case, House District 1, Honolulu HI, who voted to censure Al Greene. ABWD/ Blue MAGA results in bad Democrats getting into office and holding space which would otherwise be occupied by more reliable, more progressive Democrats. When you go to actually get get anything done, ABWD defeats your ability to govern.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Genocide Joe has got to g..

Wait what are we doing again

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

We're taking a victory lap.

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Dems continue to be baffled by the popularity of progressive politicians. They can’t fathom Americans wanting less & less to do with their moderate-right-wing bullshit, while the far-right moves farther & farther right.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (16 children)

It's the foreign influence within the DNC brought in after private money flooded US politics. Get rid of Citizens United and the system will do a lot to correct itself.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol, no it really isn't. Citizens vs United was the culmination of decades of the DNC constantly bending over backwards to compromise with conservatives.

Basically in the late 80's and early 90's the legislative grid lock we all know and love today was becoming the status quo. So a strategy of compromising with "moderate" conservatives over policy that benefited aspects of both parties was popularized by the Clinton's.

This "Thirdway politics" led to short term benefits, and allowed the Clintons to get a death grip over the DNC. After a short period conservatives took advantage of this tactic of compromise to drag the DNC further and further to the right. Basically every sitting senator and most of the politicians in the house made their political careers by being the best at compromising with the right.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was under the impression moderate compromise was code for working to satisfy donor demands. Which wouldn’t be so pressing with meaningful campaign finance reform.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's always foreigners, isn't it? What about the domestic private money flooding US politics? What, because they're American billionaires, it's fine?

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Posting this to offend the white supremacist mods in the politics forum

who they are

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Republican: I can't tell a socialist from a communist but I can be racist at the same time.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Don't worry guys. I'm sure the democrats will learn this this time around...

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (10 children)

What I'm not shocked about is that they're so out of touch with what we want.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

they're aware of what we need; they're just placing their desire to become richer ahead of it.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, so if candidates actually run on what voters want, they can succeed?

Amazing

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Shocker progressives are popular because checks notes … they fight for everyone not just the rich

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They knew, that's why they threw Bernie Sanders under the bus over and over. The ones controlling the DNC do not want to lose their corporate backers if they allow true social equality.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don’t consider any of Mamdani’s proposals especially left-wing, either. They’re all bare-minimum, common-sense social programs that pay dividends. The fact that people are going mad over this tells you exactly how far gone the US has become.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Any politician criticizing Mamdani receives money from AIPAC…

Wow what a coincidence,

Free Palestine from the apartheid genocidal colonizers, the fascist Israeli regime!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

While I'm glad he won and the message this sends to Democrat leadership, I think making this claim: "It seems the pendulum is swinging back towards left-wing politics" is very premature.

He won a Democrat primary in a deep blue city in a blue state, the same that elected AOC.

I don't think this really signals much other than, yes NYC likes leftist candidates, as we already know from AOC. This may or may not signal any kind of larger pattern about American political feeling as a whole.

If the same doesn't happen in cities and states across the country, it will just be disregarded as a fluke.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

NYC is overwhelmingly democratic, but not left. They have a big share of rather conservative Democrats, which makes the victory of AOC and Mamdani even more impressive.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

It’s a huge poke in the eye of democrats who say anything left of Hitler loses elections.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I think part of the victory is actually showing the ability for the DNC leadership to project force is greatly diminished. They pulled out all the stops. AIPAC, DNC, The entire media apparatus, all the ad buying, the poison pill of hypocrisy, and finally, the sex pest Bill Clinton.

The victory here is very, very much that you win elections with people power, not $. The rumblings of this were actually that judicial election in Wisconsin which got Elon pushed out of the WH. And frankly, its signature was detectable in 2024 where no matter the spending, Democrats couldn't motivate voters to show up.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (6 children)

There’s also kind of an answer here to why people voted for Trump.

People are angry. They don’t necessarily know the best policies to resolve the country’s poor direction, but it’s clear to so many people that what we have isn’t working.

Many of us have had a conversation over drinks with a confident person at a party who maybe has a job you don’t understand well, and who just speaks confidently about all the things that are fucked up, and what they’d do in charge. As long as they don’t make claims of “Things are mostly okay”, they can make up any target: Immigrants, trans people, government overspending on overseas programs. The key is, they have to match the voter’s anger. The rest follows naturally.

I’d also say that’s how Obama got elected. He had a message of hope and change.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have two points to add to this:

1 - As a liberal, there was nothing more frustrating than having to vote for Kamala, a candidate who was aggressively "pro-cop", especially as many in the country were protesting for defunding cops. Youre not going to energize most people with an angle like "You want us to vote to stop Trump?"

2 - As a person who is part of the black/immigrant community, the government has a history of ignoring us for decades. It's not the federal government, but the local government too. Systematic racism has always kept us down. And I hate to say it, Trump got a wall going. Trump has ICE harassing immigrants. These are newsworthy events, even if they're in the wrong fucking direction. But a Democrat has a history of never wanting to create a ripple as they appeal to all sides.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think anyone is actually shocked. It's quite obvious that if you push policies that benefit large numbers of people, you might get support from large numbers of people. Of course that's not a guarantee, but it doesn't need to be.

But many Democrat politicians have been keen on appeasing their corporate backers by pretending otherwise, even though they knew it, we knew it, Bernie was saying it The cat has been out of the bag for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (13 children)

It's almost as though people want good policies. Bah, the people are fools! Let's move further to the right to capture moderates!

-Dems

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The funny thing is that The Betoota Advocate is a satirical newspaper - but this is not satire

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My expectation is that this will motivate them to pull another Ross Perot. They will spend all of their time working with Republicans between this election and the next dreaming up institutional hurdles to a socialist making headway in a political campaign, just like they made it institutionally impossible for third parties to sniff a presidency.

If Mamdani actually does try to do the things he says he will (which I doubt) those efforts to institutionally hamper non-conservative candidacies will be doubled.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Frankly I don't know what folks should have otherwise expected. The "standard" candidate was a former governor who left the office in disgrace after misconduct.

Even if people were for whatever reason skeptical of a progressive candidate, the business as usual candidate was such a bad idea that people would rather go for it than vote for Cuomo.

Now we watch as Cuomo probably ruins everything by running in the general anyway. The same reason why people say the progressives that can't win Democrat primaries should bow out for general elections without RCV applies to "centrists" in the same boat. A progressive candidate won fair and square, stay out of his way.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

absolutely disappointing that the Democrats would rather have a sex pest mayor than someone just a LITTLE more left than them.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Well well well, looks like not being republican lite does the trick

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