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Seems to be a pattern (lemmynsfw.com)
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[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 week ago

No surprise they wear the mark of the beast on their foreheads.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The timeline in the article doesn't line up with that picture.

Sounds like there was a nasty divorce in 2015 between the parents, including a restraining order.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We've got an article, I'm sure there will be more coming out. It's his mom and stepdad:

Social media accounts for his parents show that his dad, a U.S. Army veteran, and his mom, a pet groomer, have each divorced and remarried. Each has made Facebook posts in support of President Donald Trump and right-wing politics, but there is no indication their son shares their views.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wess-roley-identified-as-man-accused-of-killing-idaho-firefighters/

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Per the CNN story, its certainly possible he had a mental break after failing to get a job in the forestry service and just decided to take it out on a couple of firefighters before offing himself.

Did his parents holding extremist political views and a fetish for firearms play a role in his actions? Would be more unbelievable if they didn't. But I don't think he'd have been better off with a couple of parents who were firmly in the Ted Cruz camp or disaffected Liz Cheney die-hards, either.

If I was to take a wild guess, I'd say this was the direct result of a kid who was out of high school, unemployed, with no real future on the horizon, who was terminally online in a community of (likely a large number of bot-accounts and trolls) telling him he's worthless and should just off himself.

A classic problem of "surplus males" that plague every militant reactionary society.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I appreciate this take on it. So easy to take jabs at the MAGA family but to take the time to really think on the more actual influences on this kid's actions, I think you did well.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Remember: misinformation comes from both sides. Just because you like it doesn't mean you can skip fact checking.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Simply using the term “both sides” is problematic, and not just because it’s a binary fallacy. There aren’t just two sides. It’s misrepresents a system in which there is one single, unified group that engages in violent, oppressive, lawless fascism… and then there is everyone else, covering a nearly infinite variety of ideologies and goals, and many of whom have no representation.

The phrase “both sides” as it is, itself, misinformation and propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Let me clarify. I'm an imbecile who normally comments on porn and trash memes. I didn't put much thought into it besides "PSA: we're inclined to believe things that align with us! Make sure to check!" Because I gotta remind myself often because I believe most things I like. and think people also might appreciate being reminded. I just think too often in binary terms because (see above) I'm an idiot and it's all easier that way. But I'm always trying to grow and do better so I'll take your critique of my comment to heart.

I guess I'll try to phrase things less binarily in the future. Or keep it short. But thanks for keeping me on it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

God damn, this is an awesome level headed comment.

I like that you are BOTH right.

"Both sides" has definitely changed in meaning. Every time I read it I just assume it's some right wing dipshit trying to muddy the waters.

Your point is totally valid though, misinformation comes and can come from anywhere, especially online.

Keep up the good work both of you!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Damn. 👊🏼

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those MAGA Republicans look like DEMOCRATS!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't you think the guy looks like MAGA Paul Hollywood?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's people like those two that need their faces eaten by a leopard.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

too bad this happened in the home of the Aryan Nation, it'll amount to thoughts and prayers

I truly hope firefighters nationwide make some noise against this shit with guns and mental health and press politicians to make changes via inaction during emergencies. this is absolutely fucking unacceptable and they should not ever fear additional life threatening forces while risking their lives and addressing crises

so fucking tired of psychos parading around their love of guns alongside their hatred. your god isn't fuckin real, your guns are not a "god given right"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

your god isn’t fuckin real, your guns are not a “god given right”

Jesus would be going temple pharisee rampage and shoving their guns up their asses

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

MAGA = American Taliban

In case anyone was still unsure.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Another one? I'm still reeling from the preacher murders.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why are you doxxing people? I get it, they like trump, fuck them. But ultimately putting blame on the parents and showing their faces is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 week ago (32 children)

Are you serious right now? We live in a time of mass strife brought on by the redcaps. If you dont want your face and name on the internet dont support fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

His own parents had no contact orders against him after he made numerous threats on their lives. He was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. He posted radicalized ideas and conspiracy theories on his X account.

Trumpism is both a disease and a mental disorder, and ignoring your deranged kid because he's too difficult to handle and who obviously has some F***ed up ideas about the world is pretty messed up on their behalf.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In phycology it's usually the parents that fuck their kids up. I see it all the time. If they had turbulent marriage then the kid had a turbulent life.

From CNN

“Court documents show that Roley had a tumultuous family life growing up. His mother filed for divorce in September 2015, when her son was 10 years old, and wrote in court documents that her husband had threatened her, pushed her to the ground, and “punched several holes in the walls.”

“He threatened to sit outside my house with a sniper rifle or burn my house down,” she wrote.

A judge granted a protective order preventing Roley’s father from having contact with his wife or son, but later amended the order to remove the son after his father wrote in a court filing that “I am not a danger to my son or anyone else” and that his wife “did not tell the truth in her statement.”

The divorce was granted in November 2015, and Roley’s mother was designated as his “primary residential parent.”

Sometimes the kids are just dicks though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In psychology, you never diagnose people over the web, and you specifically never ever make assumptions about people who aren't your patient.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is talking about phycology though, it's not the same.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I got really confused when I didn't see algae posting.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

...is this even doxxing? There's nothing personally identifying that isn't already public.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

They'll find out that he donated a dollar to a charity at the grocery store checkout when he was 12, so he's a Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

We need your particular set of skills to kidnap and possibly deflate a giant orange balloon that people keep pretending is human.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These people are victims of targeted propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These people are willing consumers of targeted propaganda.

Ftfy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By "propaganda" I mean lies and manipulation. By definition you can't consent to that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think they probably have a dull little voice in the back of their head that they do their best to starve and keep locked in a little prison cell that tells them they shouldn't believe what they're seeing/hearing, and they ignore the voice and keep consuming Faux News etc.

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