it never ceases to amaze me how these people were convinced that trying to preserve your health is "cowardly" and it's everyone else who are "sheeple"
literal weapons-grade stupidity
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2025
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One of the key characteristics of conservatives is being the person wearing the boot. When governments told people to wear masks, suddenly the law applied to them, which is why you saw such resistance from conservatives. It wasn't about health or even not being "sheeple" for them. It was, from their POV, the government oppressing them.
They have no problem will laws that apply to everyone else (e.g. abortion, welfare restrictions, etc.) because they don't see themselves as affected. But when laws begin to apply to them, suddenly it's oppression.
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
It's not about the journey it's the destination.
They're not idiots. They're actually smarter then us given that it worked. They knew what they were doing. These crazy ideas spread like a meme. The spread is important. The left ignores all this and really is blind to this and it's still amazing to see how the left has no idea how to exist digitally.
too many people assumed that maga voters would eventually come around and see reason. while people whose lives were completely wrecked say "yea, this is awful, but i still support trump!!"
Come around to what?
Both sides have their perspective and arguments. Reality is they're both valid. People are arguing from silos though.
Precautions were 100% required and I would argue not enough.
But also I couldn't imagine not being able to have a funeral for someone I love. I think it did impact learning at the time for many kids early on in their education. I think the way information was shared was ok but the media failed to highlight the right information at the right time.
It's like this ICE stuff as well. Fuck ICE first off all. But from the sounds of it, they are removing people who were in the country illegally and that part isn't really talked about on the left. By ignoring that key part I think it makes the left lose credibility with a lot of people. A lot of them are able to look over all this stuff because the end result is people who were there illegally are removed. The left can laugh all they want that Debra from Canada is having a leopard are her face moment. But it misses the fact that many are supportive of this including removing Debra. Places like Lemmy seem more focused on feelings or the audacity of how something is looking rather than what is happening.
Without context what you say may seem reasonable. Conservatives and Republicans have created this problem by preventing a solution to the Dreamers, cross-country labor, immigration reform, etc.
There are two real perspectives here. One is immigration is a useful tool and most immigrants here illegally provide valuable services to our country and are settled, have families, and work. The second is that immigrants are the source of our problems.
You speak of facts and feelings, but it is clear the conservatives have no facts and are all feelings. What you say is just their typical projection. To sum this up, conservatives are just wrong about immigration and instead base their perceptions on racism.
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And no they aren't. It's just that trying to convince an idiot that they're an idiot is an uphill battle.
No shit
Is being the lowest common denominator really smarter? If the human race no longer exists did they really win? Perhaps we just all lost.
Yea, what the fuck.
Again why the left is fucking doomed.
Like if you're in a battle and you have what you think is moral superiority but they have land and air superiority, who wins?
Also the human race still exists? They won, we lost so yea they really won even if you think you have some personality check that you passed?
It's like Democrats showing up to places and getting kicked out. Great you morally showed they suck. But you also showed how weak you are and that as a leader you can't even enter a building. Why am I supporting someone who can't succeed at that?
The left of so hell bent on showing weakness and ineffectiveness at a time where it's needed most. I understand the Democrats are not left. I'm saying anyone left of the Republicans.
Also the human race still exists?
Pretty short sighted to take this for granted. Your takes here are weird AF and are getting upvoted because people are desperate to understand how such a string of illogical events could possibly have happened. You're all grasping at straws. Sometimes things just don't make sense and the state of America right now is one of them. Claiming conservatives being smart as the reason is pretty ridiculous. Being the shittiest is not "smart".
Edit: a peek at your post history and I understand everything now. A Joe Rogan fan is not exactly someone to take seriously. The dudes whole brand is giving equal weight to reasonable and braindead positions
It's almost like the Democrats are just rich people's muppets, controlled opposition, the illusion of two hallways and one door at the end... As far as the human race I was speaking long term. They won the battle but we are on path to lose the war.
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As with a lot of weapon-grade stuff, it was probably engineered for the desired effect...
I used to have coworkers whose masks said "government control device" I reckon they think ice is good for rounding up people without accountability.