Why would a mathematician use j for imaginary numbers and why would engineer be mad at them?
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The only thing I can think of is that the OP studied electrical engineering at some point. But it's a 4chan story so probably fake anyway.
fake and gay?
I think it might be the wrong way around: Engineers like to use j for imaginary numbers because i is needed for current.
Mathematicians are taught to be elastic with notation, because they tend to be taught many different interpretations of the same theory.
On the other hand engineers use more strict and consistent notation, their classes have a more practical approach.
Using the same notation makes it faster to read and apply math, a more agile approach helps with learning new theories and approaches and with being creative.
I have no idea what they're talking about, but I do love a happy ending.
My initial thought was that it's surprising that the engineer is using i whereas the mathematician is using j. But I know some engineers who are hardcore in favour of i. No mathematicians who prefer j though. So if such an engineer were dating a mathematician of all people who used j, I could see that being ♠ .
I love how that wannabe 4chan nerd just got outnerded in the comment section
operative?
Also mathematicians use i for imaginary, engineers use j. The story does not add up. I have never seen a single mathematician use j for imaginary.
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TIL engineers can't spell for shit.
The associativity thing also doesnt make sense.
Fake and gay.
No way the engineer corrects the mathematician for using j instead of i.
As an engineer I fully agree. Engineers¹ aren't even able to do basic arithmetics. I even cannot count to 10.
¹ Except maybe Electrical engineers. They seem to be quite smart.
Electrical engineers are the ones that use j though (because i is used for current)
Having worked with electrical engineers, some of them are quite smart, the rest have lead poisoning.
Right? They got that shit backwards. Op is a fraud. i is used in pure math, j is used in engineering.
Wait bottom mathematican is using j=√-1 instead of i and not the engineer? Because I'm EE gang, and all my homies use j.
That part also got me really confused. All the mathematicans I know use i while engineers use i or j depending on the kind of engineer. I've never seen a Pikachu engineer using anything other than j.
The fun starts when you study quaternions
i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = −1
Is anyone doing anything tonight?
Something something distance calls for norm, not just squares.
||i||² + ||1||² = 2
Me, a language/arts person: "Huh?"
Medical here. "Huh?"
Moron here. "Huh?"
Can somebody ELI5 this for my troglodyte writer brain?
Integrals are an expression that basically has an opening symbol, and an operation that is written at the end of it that is used also as a closing symbol, looks kinda like:$ {some function of x} dx
.
The person basically said "the dx part can be written at the start also, and that would make my so mad :3": $ dx {some function of x}
.
This gets their so mad because understandably this makes the notation non-standard and harder to read, also you'd have to use parentheses if the expression doesn't just end at the function.
Note: dollar used instead of integral symbol
An integral is usually written like ∫ f(x) dx or alternatively as df(x)/dx. Please note that this is just a way to apply the operation 'Integration', like + applies the operation 'Addition'. There is no real multiplication or division.
But sometimes you can take a shortcut and treat dx as a multiplied constant. This is technically not correct, but under the right circumstances lands you at the same solution as the proper way. This then looks like this ∫ f(y) dy/dx dx = ∫ f(y) dy
Another thing you can do is to move multiplicative constants from inside the Integral to in front of the Integral: ∫ 2f(x) dx = 2 ∫ f(x) dx. (That is always correct btw)
What anon did was combine those two things and basically write ∫ f(x) dx = dx ∫ f(x). Which is nonsensical, but given the above rules not easily disproven.
This is more or less the same tactic used by internet trolls just in a mathy way. Purposefully misinterpreting arguments and information, that cost the other party considerably more energy to discover and rebut. Hence the hate fuck.
As a physicist I can't understand why would anyone complain about a +jb or $\int dx f(x)$. Probably because we don't fuck
As a software dude I can see you wrote a regex, I just can't find out what you're trying to match.
I think rather d/dx
is the operator. You apply it to an expression to bind free occurrences of x
in that expression. For example, dx²/dx
is best understood as d/dx (x²)
. The notation would be clear if you implement calculus in a program.
I just think of the definition of a derivative.
d
is just an infinitesimally small delta. So dy/dx
is literally just lim (∆ -> 0) ∆y/∆x
.
which is the same as lim (x_1 -> x_0) [f(x_0) - f(x_1)] / [x_0 - x_1]
.
Note: ∆ -> 0
isn't standard notation. But writing ∆x -> 0
requires another step of thinking: y = f(x)
therefore ∆y = ∆f(x) = f(x + ∆x) - f(x)
so you only need ∆x
approaching zero. But I prefer thinking d = lim (∆ -> 0) ∆
.