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[-] [email protected] 104 points 6 days ago

The suit, filed in filed in federal court in Miami, accuses the paper and its reporters of having “knowingly and recklessly” published “numerous false, defamatory, and disparaging statements,” which, it alleges, caused “overwhelming financial and reputational harm” to the president.

His reputation before: A pedophile, rapist, felon, fascist, serial bankrupter, fraudster, racist who wants to fuck his own daughter while stealing from children's cancer charities.

His reputation after: A pedophile, rapist, felon, fascist, serial bankrupter, fraudster, racist who wants to fuck his own daughter while stealing from children's cancer charities.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

*who draws pictures poorly.

Honestly, that's pretty damning. Remember that other failed artist who had a cult of personality and hated minorities?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Bob Ross???!? Say it ain't so!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

These are the same, case dismissed.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Unlikely. News companies have been settling with him even when he has no case. This is just legalized bribery/extortion.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'd hope WSJ buckles in and fights so that discovery gets spicy.

Or Murdoch sees it as a way to "donate" to trump, and settles outrageously.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As it turns out, the article is a gift from Murdoch: https://www.axios.com/2025/07/18/trump-epstein-letter-maga-documents

Just outrageous and questionable enough for MAGA to use as cover, and Trump to turn into a lighting rod. But it doesn't change much for anyone else. Before, MAGA Media had nothing to point to and paint Trump as the victim. Now, they do.

It derailed the schism :/

Other media's lapping it up to tell readers want they want to hear: MAGA is infighting, when in reality they are not.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Yeah. The narrative on the right has been changing ever since this came out. I wouldn't be that surprised if that was the point of the whole thing.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Other media’s lapping it up to tell readers want they want to hear: MAGA is infighting, when in reality they are not.

can you show me some examples of this not being the case? i am wondering where to look for an actual analysis on how MAGA is handling this letter, because i have seen several real world responses from his supporters that are extremely upset and feel betrayed. you're saying this isn't a sizeable group within his base? interesting.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The above article quotes and sources major influencers, but if that's not enough, go to the source:

https://xcancel.com/RealAlexJones

https://rumble.com/search/video?q=Epstein&date=today&section=date

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-shapiro-show/id1047335260

https://tuckercarlson.com/

seen several real world responses from his supporters that are extremely upset and feel betrayed

Not sure what you've seen. But to be blunt, a few clipped Twitter screenshots or clickbait headlines filtering to Lemmy's front page don't paint a good picture. This place is a bubble... Like most of the internet. Twitter is, too, as its algo just shows you want you want to see, not a fair "slice" of activity.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

..no, i said real world examples lol. like a town hall meeting where people loudly booed Trump and it was a meeting specifically for his crowd.

edit: this here - i can't find a good clip that is just the event itself, sorry. searching nowadays is garbage but it is out there. this will give you an idea of what i'm talking about. there are more examples.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Influencers are a good bellwater, they're the heart of the MAGA movement. They go where their viewers want, which is (for now) attacking the WSJ and defending Trump.

/r/conservative is still total Trump too: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/

I don't know of any grassroots uprisings against Trump. Surveys will take weeks to percolate out, but the lack of documented rebellion kinda suggests voters aren't turning on him in person, either.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

check the edit in my comment. i don't know about a documented uprising or anything but people are vocally expressing disapproval and some are rather upset. trump almost got assassinated by a disillusioned conservative. these people are dangerous and unhinged even against themselves.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That was a week ago, heh. Now the narrative is flipped.

Look through recent comments here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1m0qcp0/congress_has_voted_to_deny_the_amendment_to_the/

There are quite a few dissenters, but also tons of:

  • Hating on anyone but Trump, with comments like:

As constituents, we can't ever let this go. The list must be made public. Those who had any part in hurting children must be held accountable. My state has 2 democrat senators, but I can promise you if I lived in a state with republican senators that voted against releasing the list they'd never get my vote again.

  • Twisting in knots with top comments like:

Any reason why Democrats didn't push for this when they controlled the House in 2022? EDIT: To clarify for the DMs-- yes, Bondi and Trump misstepped by turning this case into a media circus. The DOJ should rectify this mistake by releasing what they can, but don't be surprised if it's not "satisfactory" in the sense of being more boring than one might hope for. If the files contained damning evidence about Donald Trump, it raises the very obvious questions of: Why Trump teased the release of them and why he appointed Bondi/Patel/Bongino. If I was in such a file, I wouldn't be talking about it at all.

I don’t care if fcking mother Theresa is on that client list, release it and hold every single one of them responsible. Tired of this shit. EDIT: to all the leftists flooding my inbox asking me “what if your orange idol is on the list!?” Then FCK him too! He’s not on the list, but if he is, then he can burn in hell with the rest of whoever is on the list.

And the mega influencers are going to keep skewing this in Trump's favor, now that they found a way.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

ah see, thanks. i need to catch up then. i was hoping to be wrong about the direction of their reactions but you are pointing out my worries coming true. "idk i'm seeing some vicious anger that appears to imply their focus on pedophilia overrides their allegiance to Trump," i thought. lol. welp. i guess we'll see but now i'm back to where i was.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Hopefully this doesn't just get dismissed and we get some nice information in discovery.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Based on the last few cases, The WSJ will cave and settle with Trump for a ridiculous amount of money in order to stay on his "good" side.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago

Discovery is going to be glorious. But TACO

[-] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

I wonder if the contents of the files can be called as evidence for the defense.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Murdoch, of all people, now a champion of free speech?

It never ceases to amaze me how completely absurd the US is.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

It's cause he's a pedophile and rapes children

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

He really wants to make sure everyone knows about his ties to his buddy Epstein doesn’t he? Or maybe he is that stupid.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I don't think he thinks that far ahead.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I feel like I'm watching one of those movies whose major third act twist you see coming from the opening scene but like, your 67 year old mom/grandmother is actually shocked by and gets so angry they want to leave the theater, and you can try to point out all the obvious signs telegraphing who the real killer is but some people just can not accept a story where the bad guy is pretending to be a normal human

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I can’t wait for discovery and Trump being forced to do a deposition. That worked so well for him in the past.

Honestly, I feel like somehow they’re just going to settle out of court and he’ll get a few million sent his way for no apparent reason.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

This will send any evidence into the public domain. This'll be fun!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I'm sure Rupert Murdoch will have a treasure trove of shit on Trump.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Republicans are eating each other now.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Leopards are full, someone has to do it :D

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

remember clinton wanting to be known as the education president. So many options for this guy. The litigious president, the graft president, the unqualified president, it just goes on and on.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

The Fascist President.

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