The bigger problem is trying to get the mainstream that would read an article like that to understand the technical difference between hacking and accessing unsecured data.

Lemmy is full of people with a lot of technical knowledge, who look down on anyone without it. Just look at their responses to someone complaining and an issue on Windows, it's just a hundred people telling you what Linux distro they use.

It's not so much mysogyny, they just can't pass up the opportunity to be smug about something.

It isn't the women who are wrong; it's the app developer and 4chan. But setting aside the data breach, creating a Yelp for dating is a ticking time bomb. They were going to get sued out the ass, data breach or no data breach. I don't know how many times this needs to happen, but I guess web developers have the memory of goldfish. There have been several attempts at something similar that got shut down for the obvious reasons. Making a website that rates human beings is always going to be a legal minefield.

Your comment was on top for me in my app, so I was like "oh how bad could it be.". Holy shit you're not wrong, there's some disgusting comments that are getting voted up.

I'm low-key disappointed and appalled by these community members who believe these women "deserve" it for ... Trying to help each other be safer?

The Tea app is agnostic. While its purpose and main use case was made for the safety of women in the dating scene, it was inevitably used to spread exaggerated or misleading information about otherwise innocent men. Imagine being a privacy-conscious individual, and breaking up with a toxic woman. She could go on to spread lies about you and even upload pictures of you to the reverse image search/ai. So even if you were doing everything right from a privacy standpoint, you’d still end up in someone’s private database, subjected to ai training, shared with the government, or who knows what. While I do see the purpose of apps like these, they can effectively take away someone’s privacy/dignity without them even knowing about it. Now imagine being a 4channer, someone probably even more privacy-conscious than lemmings, and possibly experiencing mental disorders like paranoid schizophrenia or autism; of course they’re drawn to hacking an app that would destroy their privacy. They are not sane individuals, so this event really was inevitable.

I'm all for groups of safe spaces for women. Especially when it's designed to keep them safe while dating. I have my doubts that Tea was that. Even if it was advertised as such, "tea" is slang for the word gossip. I've heard stories from several sources that it was used to dox people as well. Not saying what happened to the users is right. I think some users here are just feeling smug that this might cause the app to fail or shut down.

Well lets be honest if someone made a gender inverse version ofctea many people would b concerned about what is being shared on the app. Honestly i find tesla disturbing and the 4 chan doxing dangerous. Both sides can be bad.

I think you are misunderstanding why people are upset.

It's horrible that these women were doxxed.

It's also horrible that a subset of women were doxxing men, which is what brought this negative attention to the site.

Misogyny is real in our society, misandry is real.

Saying things happen for sexist reasons when it was for a logical reason does a disservice to movements that seek equality.

The internet also cheered on the 4chan PII leak that happened recently, not becauase it's a male dominant space, but because they do shitty things like dox people.

Tea could easily be used for two extremely different purposes:

• Legitimate use to inform and protect women from abusive men
• Illegitimate use to spread misinformation (libel!) about men with no verification of truth or reasonable appeal process

The idea of Tea isn't bad-- I've thought about the potential utility of similar apps myself-- but most people who are reacting badly are recognizing that it's a nearly impossible moderation problem that will be used for bad things too.

I've been seeing a lot of misogony here the past week or so. It's disheartening.

Seeing as the word hack is doing a lot of heavy lifting. They didn't bother to actually secure the data and then put it on the internet for anyone to access.

I think it depends on people's intent and purpose for using this service. I'm overall not a fan of someone taking and sharing pictures of me without my consent, or making claims that can't be defended...

The group of women legitimately using it for safety is fine, in a general sense.

The group of women using it as gossip and entertainment is not.

At first I was going to call bullshit because I thought you were exaggerating and being ridiculous.

Nope. That's the app. "Anonymous" sharing of pictures and info of other people. Presumably without their permission. That's fucked up.

If by "personal information" you mean sharing their experiences with certain people ... Yeah I guess.

They weren't sharing addresses and social security numbers or drivers license numbers or other things that would lead to identity theft.

How can you not have sympathy for these women getting doxxed because they wanted to help create a safer space for one another and to help each other out? That's wild.

This is far from turnabout, this is abuse.

How dare they warn other women about rapists.

you're right as far it's intentions go. I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about what it intended to do what I have a MASSIVE issue with is that it did the EXACT opposite of what it "intended to do."

It didn't provide Women with a "safe space" because women's government issued IDs and their personal selfies were, quite literally, OUT IN THE OPEN. It opened Women who used the app to way more harm.

Their database, and i'm being extremely generous when I call it that, wasn't even password protected. not even a simple plain text password like "password123" there was NO password. at all. period. All I would have had to do was simply see where the app sent the scanned ID's, open a terminal, SSH into it WITHOUT A PASSWORD OR KEY, and then I now have access to the IDs of over 13,000 Women. Hell I probably wouldn't have even had to SSH into it, probably could have opened the damn thing from a web browser.

So when the media is saying 4chan "leaked" this stuff again they're being generous. It's like if you were walking down the street that Tea lived on and you noticed they left their door wide open so you decided to peak your head inside and while peaking your head in you noticed a box right by the door that had thousands of IDs in it so you picked up the box and walked out. Chances are other people got to this box before 4chan did, many people probably did, it's just that 4chan were the only ones to say "Hey I found this house with a wide open door and decided to pick up this box with all these IDs in it, neat huh?"

That which has no life can never truly die (or something)

the site got hacked and most of the admins were revealed to have .gov emails but everyone pretty much already expected that so nobody actually cared and it's back to business as usual

It's not like it was a complicated site, they just rebuilt it in some modern framework on the cheap.