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In case you're out of the loop, the old Steam Deck had Philips screws that screwed into self-tapping plastic holes. This lead to occasional stripped threads and often stripped screwheads.

Valve absolutely did not have to change their screws, and its probably actually against their best interests. While other companies around the world are constantly in search of new ways to screw their own consumers, Valve goes out of their way to update their screws to make them easier to install/remove by changing to torx screws and added metal threads in the backplate. Those who know anything about mechanical engineering know this is not an insignificant amount of effort they put into it.

This is a small change that makes a huge impact, and speaks volumes about the ethos of the company. It says:

  1. We want to make our devices last longer, and be easier to repair.

  2. If you want to buy the cheaper tier and save yourself a few bucks by installing whatever SSD you want, go right ahead.

  3. We trust you to make decisions for yourself.

  4. Most importantly, we respect you, the consumer, and want you to fully own and control the devices we sell.

Valve is by no means perfect, and there's plenty more they could be doing, but they've earned my respect and my patronage and I won't buy games from anywhere else. I will buy whatever future products they sell, even if I don't think I'll use them regularly.

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[–] [email protected] 221 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Less of a rant, more of a rave.

Cool upgrade for hobbiests.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ya from the title I expected OP to be complaining because they don't own a torx head screwdriver/bit.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoops. Unintentional clickbait.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Was expecting the same and I didn't even know they switched to torx. Philips screws are bad. I go out of my way and spend extra money to avoid them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are rants inherently negative?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

rant /rănt/ intransitive verb

  1. To speak or write in an angry or emotionally charged manner; rave.
  2. To express at length a complaint or negative opinion.
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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When Gaben dies there will be fucking riots.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I really hope he's cultivating at least one successor within the company to carry on his vision.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Valve is possibly the closest thing to a non-evil company in the world today.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why Gabe is my billionaire of choice in the forthcoming billionaire mercenary wars.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the corporation wars start over the remaining arable land and drinkable water, I'll be joining the Steam Corps

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Maybe this is going to be the real Half Life 3. You thought it was scary in VR? Get ready for IRL.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the benefits of not going public, I guess

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love their approach to Hardware and Linux but have we collectively forgotten that Valve had a huge part in pushing loot boxes and underage gambling? Far from being the least evil company, but still a net win for consumers and I appreciate that they exist.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While other companies around the world are constantly in search of new ways to screw their own consumers

You bastard, take that upvote.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Yeah what Valve is doing is great. Hopefully they will become more mainstream in the future and become more known with the super casual crowd. Nintendo definitely needs more proper competition in the handheld market.

Also FYI it’s Phillips with double L, Philips with one L is the Dutch electronics company.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I actually thought they invented those screws, thus linking them to their company. Glad to be enlightened

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

As someone who used to run a louis rossman electronics repair business for a couple years before i burned out.

LG G5 was and still is my point to for perfectly fixable devices.

Motorola is trash because you have to dismantle the phone from the back layer by layer just to reach the front screen.

HTC was even worse with two tier motherboards and octopuss ribbon cables were a nightmare to navigate.

iPhone was/ is possibly the easiest fucking phone to fix, ironically...however by the iphone 8 and onwards apple found increasingly shitty ways to make 3rd party repairs nearly impossible.

windows phones, nokia, and others were hit or miss. tablets were long winded affairs but generally easy due to their inherent size.

ive been out of the game since 2019 when covid dropped. id really like to hear the inside baseball on any current operators running repair business.

i used Repair Shopr software to manage my customers. idk if thats still the go to or if another has bested it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When I couldn't repair my Nokia and replace the 5 € USB-Port because there happened to be a small crack in the screen (of course you have to remove the glued on screen to accese the innards), I caved and bought a Fairphone 3.

Worst decision ever. The stupid thing refuses to break to let me even use the better repairability.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I wonder if the decision has anything to do with selling refurbished units. It’s a good change, glad to see this!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That and they want as many Steam decks to be working as possible. They don't make their money on Steam Deck's as much as they make money on people buying games for them.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I haven't even made an account on Epic to get free games from there. Valve almost single handedly made Linux a viable gaming platform and I'm grateful for that (I know wine has existed far longer than proton, but the difference before and after proton is day and night).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Even before Proton Valve was heavily invested in Linux gaming.

SteamOS has been around way longer than Proton, and the Steam Client had a native Linux version for such a long time, I don't even remember when it was published. Also, the Steam Linux Runtime is something worth mentioning - it is a common base that game developers can target instead of the various different distributions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Torx screws and threaded inserts is not really that much effort engineering side.

It has more significant impact on the cost. Millions of torx screws and threaded inserts cost more than self tapping Phillips into plastic.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

It’s almost like Valve doesn’t absolutely hate their customers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strange how a company with infinite money just produces stuff they like huh?

Every company should try that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Look at the shit Apple produces and understand it is not only a function of money.

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