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    [–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well yes, the rest of the world does have better paper. 21Γ—29.7, the only ratio to conserve itself when halving the sheet

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Wait, is that true? Is there something special about that ratio in particular that lets it conserve ratio when dividing?

    [–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    There also is B0, which is exactly 1 by the root of 2 meters.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
    [–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yes it's true. It's the square root of 2, which is why it works.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Legend has it that Leonardo da Vinci came up with it

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Here you go, proof at ~2 min in.

    Edit: for those who don't want to use YouTube anymore. If a is the long side and b is the short side of a rectangle. Halving the rectangle will make the long side b and the short side 1/2 a. If the ratio is preserved when halving, we get:

    a/b=b/(1/2 a)

    a^2=2b^2

    a^2/b^2=2

    a/b=sqrt(2)

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yes, this particular ratio allows the fact that you can fold a A3 paper in two and get two A4 sheet

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's called the Golden Ratio and has a lot of neat properties! Da Vinci and other nerds love(d) using it in art.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Besides the Grey video heres an oldie but goodie Numberphile video about it

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I didn't know there are part of the world which doesn't put A4 in their printers

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Relation 1 to SQR 2, from A0 of 1m2 to A5 letter format (A4, A5 most used in the EU), every time the half of the next bigger format. Easy to remember.

    https://www.papersizes.org/a-paper-sizes.htm

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    For anyone else wondering, this is a X11 vs Wayland meme - i.e. desktop window managers. Yeah.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Neither of them are window managers, they are windowing systems. A window manager is the part that actually lets you move around windows and draws the borders and stuff, like kwin, mutter, xfwm, i3, etc

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    As I typed my comment, I realised someone would correct me with hyperspecific linux terminology. But I support your correction good sir.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah? Well you too, Nerd!

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    Y'all arguing about window managers and I'm just trying to connect my shit-ass bt headset to my PC.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    does Wayland even have a built in DWM? Because both are session manager.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

    No, Wayland is just a protocol, and the things that implement it are compositor, not WMs

    Also, there's no such thing as a DWM, except for the WM called dwm

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    [–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

    Yes, we do have metric paper. A4 vs. US letter.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

    This meme was brought to you by :s/x11/wayland/g

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    depen dancies

    dancies - little dances :]

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well the tearing fixes would definitely help.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Option "TearFree" "true" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/your.conf but some compositors do that already.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

    Stupid Nvidia Ink Cartridges...

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

    for fuck sake shut up LMAO

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    I'm starting to think Wayland is the systemd of desktop graphic environments. Might be amazing eventually, but pushed onto the community too soon by opinionated devs who have fallen victim to the second-system effect.

    Mod me down, don't care.

    Edit: Woohoo, into the ground! Mod me down further, and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine :p

    I don't troll often, but when I do.. it's about Wayland and systemd. Nyah nyah.

    Honestly if Wayland will work 100% on my next setup and apps appear as expected, I won't give a damn what system I'm using.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I actually quite like Wayland. I have not had a problem. Except with the discord application cause they are too lazy to fix their screen recording bug

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    :) I'll try it again, promise. I just didn't have a good experience around two years ago. I do hear it's much better now.

    I'll confess I've avoided systemd to this day however. Devuan/Funtoo are fine, and I don't miss any of the supposed improvements systemd brings. So I'll probably be rocking Wayland/open-rc or Wayland/sysv-init until I drop dead.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Systemd is great for process management. It's fault is trying to do too much.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Is there a Systemd fork that is unix philosophy compliant?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    I don't think you can change foundational architectural things like that in a fork. A lot of systemd's strengths also come from the integration of doing many things, e.g. process management and the sandboxing features together are certainly easier to read and write than having the process management call some sort of external sandboxing tool (potentially multiple nested ones) with a bazillion parameters all in the ExecStart line of the systemd unit.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It was pushed way too soon. It's just not too soon anymore, that's why everybody is moving now.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    I sincerely hope it turns out to be the case. I don't pretend I haven't torn out my hair on multiple occasions fighting with xorg.conf.. that's for sure.

    Just being provocative for the lulz on a memepost, mostly :)

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I like both Wayland and systemd

    Name one init system that boots as fast as systemd on a modern distro with many services. Then name a display server that's actually easy to maintain and to develop client applications for

    The current issues with Wayland are due to it being new, X11 fanboys not wanting to explore the idea of contributing to Wayland, and client applications that are poorly designed

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    X11 fanboys not wanting to explore the idea of contributing to Wayland,

    People have tried that, those projects are all dead for 3-5 years now because Wayland's design turned out to be so much more flawed than originally expected with its "Oh, you know all that stuff the X server used to do, you now have to do all of that yourself in your compositor even though you don't care about any of it and there is no benefit from having multiple implementations" approach.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

    Shouldn't it be 8.5XFree86 in the land of freedomβ„’?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    HDR for Wayland when?

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