Polling when there's no election is meaningless.
this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
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I would say it’s a very noisy signal but not meaningless. Also, one affects the other: the polling affects when there will be an election. Not now!
I'm of the belief they use polling to help maintain the status quo of only really having 2 partys people want to choose. The polling helps them ensure no 3rd party steps in and starts gaining traction. A lot of people tell me its a waste of a vote if it isnt for the libs or the cons. The absolute reliance and normality of strategic voting is an obvious sign we are due for electoral reform and some new faces in parliament.
partys
:facepalm:
Agreed. Except this might be useful info for the LPC. If Trudeau's trailing PP by 15 points, maybe it's hard to ignore that a new figurehead is needed for them to be competitive in the election. With all the climate change denialism going on, it'd be so disheartening to elect PP 😔
If the Liberals lose the next election, it won't be because of Pierre, it'll be despite Pierre. Like his idol Trump, Bitcoin Millhouse could shoot someone in the face on Sussex road and Conservatives would still vote for him. Liberal voters keep their party in check and will only vote when they do enough good things.
Because liberals are better humans than conservatives?
Not sure I'd go that far, but I'd say Liberals supporters are less sheep-like than Conservative supporters, generally speaking of course.
Funny, because I honestly see no difference, they just sheep on different things, same goes for avid NDP supporters.
There are always sheep, regardless of views. My belief is that Conservatives have 'better' sheep because they rarely ever vote against their own party (even when damaging information comes to light) whereas LPC/NDP share a voter base and often cannibalize each others support.
That's fair.
Wasn't that long ago Chrystia Freeland was supposed to take over the party leadership from Trudeau.
Too bad the old boys' network behind the scenes decided that wasn't good enough and kept JT at the helm ... and now the Libs pay the price for their stupidity.
Lol what?
That was just something pushed by Nat post because she’s an easier opponent
That comment has everything: Drama, conspiracy, betrayal. Best fiction ever.
Cons need validation in polls because they literally aren’t doing anything else.
People looking for a quick fix so they choose Pierre.
Where is the option for "They are all pieces of shit that shouldn't be running a country" ?
And if that option wins, a pool of citizens who have marked that they'd be willing to serve a term in government get randomly selected from each riding to fill each seat. You can only serve if you haven't ran federally before.
It's filed under "Useless information that doesn't help anyone".
Remember everyone: POLLS ARE VOTER MANIPULATION. Polls like this demoralize voters, making them think that the election has already been decided. They pulled the same bullshit in Ontario during Ford's second election -- if "Did not vote" was a political party, it would have taken 80+% of seats in the Ontario Legislature. Instead, less than 17% of eligible voters gave him a 66% majority. Total bullshit.
Spread the word.
Or...polls reflect the current state of voter opinion and this should serve as a useful warning to Trudeau and the Liberal Party that they should choose a new leader before the next election. No need to go full conspiracy.
It only reflects opinions from "people who responded to our poll" which is not a demographic representative of voters.
Sure, and there is a reasonable discussion to be had about how pollsters compose panels and use statistical techniques to try, with varying degrees of success, to make those panels more representative of the population. However, simply dismissing all polls as "voter manipulation" is unreasonable.
Choosing a new leader would be suicide for the liberals
If you ever feel stupid remember there are people that support this clown
which clown?
Poilievre
If you paid attention to any of his policies or speakings then it would be obvious
He even refuses to accept security clearances so how can anyone see him as viable
yeah agreed, but he’s not the only clown in the room
I guess Annamie Paul and Max Bernier are on his level but they aren’t in the room
Is there something in the water?