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If they can't sell it, then they'll lower prices and people will be able to buy them.

I doubt the profits are so hard to come up with considering the wild CEO pay and record profits everyone's bragging about.

Straight up don’t give a single fuck what car dealers want. If they could all go out of business I’d be a happier person

With 30% markups? No, you cannot.

EVs require much less maintenance...dealers make much of their money from... maintenance! So they mark up the sale price to compensate for their lost revenue.

The solution is selling cars without dealerships, but our helpful state legislatures have made that illegal in many states.

Maybe roll out some models people can afford? It's all SUVs that start around $45k, but they built only a few of those base models. The ones actually available are premium trims that go for $65k and might peak around $100k. They were able to sell out for 6 months, and then that market was saturated. Now they stand around asking why nobody buys their cars.

Well, maybe if the price of cars wasn't so fucking high, they'd be able to sell more of them. But nope, corps gotta get those record profits in, while underpaying every single [non-executive] worker.

Give me a solid car with an electric motor, but all old-school buttons and knobs in the cabin instead of a touchscreen that will be out of date in 5 years and cost 10k to replace if the kids get their grimy hands on it.

How about people pay attention to local elections? The reason we are not seeing funding for EV infrastructure is most small towns can be bought by the local dealership family who would rather see continued profits from ICE vehicle maintenance and not investments into EV infrastructure, then it conviently sides with this bullshit narrative of nothing can be sold and we have no infrastructure so give up on EVs.

I don’t see any problem with removig car dealers. Just phase out of existence no one will miss them.

Maybe it’s because cars suck now: filled with spyware, massively complex systems that aren’t better at doing car things than similar systems in the 90s, and with a price tag that considers this garbage as worth something to the consumer.

Car dealers are just a legal & institutionalized cartel.

Bullshit. These dealers don't want to sell EVs because they can't bait you into a sales pitch 4 times a year with free oil changes.

Henry Ford designed the Model T to be a bare-bones vehicle affordable for the everyday person. Volkswagon designed the Beetle to be a bare-bones vehicle affordable for the everyday person.

The first car company to design an EV that's a bare-bones vehicle affordable for the everyday person will sell lots of them. Profit per car may be lower but perhaps we need to set the need for maximum profits aside on this particular issue?

My raises aren't even CLOSE to keeping up with inflation. Rather hard to splurge on a fancy EV with tons of high-tech nice-to-have features that are just going to break anyway. All I need to do is to get from point A to point B and have AC, heat and a half-decent stereo system.

I would like to buy an electric car but I will not because;

1. I don't have a garage.
2. I live in a very wintery climate and don't trust the battery to take it/don't want to heat a battery
3. The closest chargers are at least 50 km away in other towns
4. My house has 60 amp service (upgrading that is on the todo list, but it's a long list)
5. I don't trust the battery to last longer than the life of the lease

If they can’t sell them then let companies sell without a dealership! Sorry your scammy business isn’t working anymore either clean your nose or get out

I loved my Volt... Charged overnight in a normal 110 outlet got me the 43 miles to work and back (after about year 5, not quite the whole way) but I could still decide to go on a 600 mile road trip spur of the moment. Had to give up the 2014 in 2023 when a full charge wouldn't go 20 miles. ☹️

There is no PHEV comparable now, though! Made the switch back to full ICE and I hate it.

They can sell them, they just don't want to order what people want to buy. It's actually them ignoring the legitimate intention of the phrase: "The customer is always right."

Whenever someone says that, this is actually what the author meant. If your customers keep coming in to buy size 8-11 shoes and you only want to stock sizes 12 and 13, you are wrong. The customer always knows what they are willing to buy. Some people can be coerced, but you can't make someone who doesn't want a truck for 100k buy one.

Car dealers don't want to sell EVs, it's a lot more work for them

They can sell an ICE vehicle within an hour of a customer showing up on the lot.

EVs can take multiple days and sit downs to try and sell because people have questions since it's new and they want to understand the details before purchasing.

That means less commission, so salesmen try to avoid selling people EVs over ICE vehicles.

Supply and demand, right? Surely they'll get cheaper, right?

Fascinating, have they tried sucking less?

Give me an EV without a massive center console that blinds me at night. Remove all the "smart" features like lane assist. Give me a fucking dumb EV

Dealers are waiting to see it the country becomes a full on fascist, road warrior, shit-hole country or continue on a path to a modern first world democracy.

You can't sell EV's because:

1: too expensive to buy new 2: if you live anywhere that's not a big city, or you have a garage, there is basically no electric chargers for you.

The city I live in (~30k people) has 6 chargers total. None of them are superchargers. Wait times are already a sticking point in the best case, nevermind what the wait times would be if everyone where I'm at had an electric car tomorrow. The whole downtown would maybe gridlock just because of people waiting.

For comparison, there are probably 2-300 gas pumps around the city. 5 gas stations within 5 minutes of where I am, all with at least 8 pumps, all well used. People are not going to get EV's unless there is an infrastructure that is equivalent to gas around where they live.

And that infrastructure is not gonna be fun to get going.

The average person living in the city can't really use them with street parking, can't always guarantee a spot after all, and installing a personal one for yourself all but requires a personal garage, which locks out the people who live in poorer housing.

Lots of people in my city and I suspect many others live in trailer parks with low/fixed incomes, having just a simple driveway. Where are they gonna get the thousand or two to install a Level 2 charging station? My mom and dad certainly don't have the money.

Expecting the EV companies to make the infrastructure with the money they get just from selling EV's is gonna turn into one gigantic chicken-and-egg problem. The government is going to have to do it, and anyone who's not living along an interstate can see just how much benefit they are personally getting from it so far.... (hint: none)

There's a huge wave of anti ev propaganda coming out. Beware.

Gotta push the EV infrastructure harder. No good pushing lots of EV cars when the infrastructure isn’t there to support them. Can’t charge at work. Can’t charge at your apartment complex. No charge at the shopping areas. Etc. Other than the high initial cost, I’d suggest that the inconvenience and irritation of trying to locate charging along with range limits is a major factor in people not wanting EV.

You're not gonna sell shit with jacked up sky high prices, even more so in a time of high interest rates. We see your lots are full of unsold cars, both ICE and EV, so maybe it's time to bring prices back down to Earth.

We really ought to change the laws to allow for direct-to-consumer car sales. Dealerships are scummy motherfuckers who are perfectly happy to be a middleman and rip people off.

Despite our robust economy, the US trails both Europe and China in terms of EV adoption.

Yeah, about that. The economy only looks robust because its health is based on the stock value of a limited number of U.S. corporations. The average American human being is fuckin broke...ironically, because of the pursuit of eternal continuous growth (which is impossible) for profit.

Sell EV’s under $30k and you’ll sellout!

Car dealers are useless middlemen that should be put out of business.