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[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago

The part of the speech that was removed:

“History isn’t history anymore. Truth is not truth. Even facts are being replaced by alternative facts and driven by conspiracy theories and ugliness. In Florida, young students are taught that slaves developed skills which can be applied for their personal benefit.

The entertainment industry isn’t immune to this festering disease. The Duke, John Wayne, famously said of Native Americans, ‘I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.’

Lying has become just another tool in the charlatan’s arsenal. The former president lied to us more than 30,000 times during his four years in office, and he’s keeping up the pace in his current campaign of retribution. But with all his lies, he can’t hide his soul. He attacks the weak, destroys the gifts of nature, and shows disrespect, for example, by using ‘Pocahontas’ as a slur.”

Meanwhile:

The actor appeared onstage at the ceremony on Monday night for the presentation of the Gotham Historical Icon and Creator Tribute to Martin Scorsese’s Killers Of The Flower Moon, a film distributed by Apple that focuses on a series of murders targeting the Osage people in Oklahoma during the 1920s after oil was discovered on tribal land.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 117 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Clipping a way Jon Stewart and now editing speeches. WTF is going on.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple is about making money. If honesty and integrity do not increase profits, they will be discarded.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which is unbearable because Apple loves to pretend they care about issues

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They all do until it affects profits.

Corporations are legal people but they are all literal psychopaths. They will do or say anything to keep the profits rolling and the real humans mean nothing to them.

We are nothing but a means to an end and that end is profits.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

We created runaway AI decades ago. No computers needed.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Looking like they care about "privacy" and "issues" is purely accidental.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's Apple, did anyone expect integrity?

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well, yes. There have been a lot of reasons to dislike Apple but censorship was not one of them.

[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Well now you can update your list to include censorship

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must not be aware then that Apple gladly removes VPN apps from the Chinese app store to continue selling their phones there

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

VPN services are illegal in China. Apple doesn't "gladly" remove the apps but they can't just not comply with the law. But Apple has helpfully built VPN support directly into the operating system. Once you get the configuration stuff from your provider, you can set it up in the Settings app. Apple did the bare minimum of legal compliance by removing the apps, but also made it so you don't need the apps in the first place.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There have been a lot of reasons to dislike Apple but censorship was only a minor one of them.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How do execs not understand the Streisand Effect yet? If DeNiro had just made the speech and criticized Trump and the industry, I never would have read past the headline. Good for him for speaking out, but I'm good and over "celebrity bashes Trump" stories. Ah but Apple censors Trump criticism, well now you've got my click and my eyeballs. So dumb. Also evil. But mostly just dumb.

[–] SVcross@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I work in a corporate. It is impressive how often people forget about the Streisand effect.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What worse is, I was thinking of watching the movie, but knowing it's Apple, and knowing all the control they try to push on the content, then maybe is not worth it.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo ho ho ho, come sail the high seas, friend.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, "famous actor insults Trump" is such a "dog bites man" story I never would have even registered it.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, but now they have plausible deniability. They only care that they're not taking the blame for it, not that it's being said. "We tried to stop it, don't blame us".

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

I've never even heard of this award show. There probably wouldn't even have been an article about it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tim Apple has to stay on Trump's good side so he doesn't get thrown into the concentration camp with the rest of the gays when Trump gets into office.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He and Peter Thiel will just move to another country in their private jets, nbd.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I wonder if Peter will have enough room on his plane for his blood boy

https://gizmodo.com/someone-is-trying-to-discredit-the-story-of-peter-thiel-1796135794

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I think this is the reasoning of many on the right.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... in response to “feedback from the filmmaking team that wanted the actor’s remarks to be centered on the movie.”

Fuck that. You had de Niro submit a speech because you want to broadcast his words. You tried to make him a puppet and have your words in his voice.

The only thing actions like this cause is that it makes people wonder how many times smaller voices simply just went with the puppet speech.

I can't believe they asked someone of talent to write a speech and think he'd just roll along with major changes in the voice.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't believe they asked someone of talent to write a speech and think he'd just roll along with major changes in the voice.

Me either. Absolute fucking Muppetry.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 year ago

Fuck all that noise, I am going to take De Niro at his word on this. They probably knew he wouldn't approve the edits and tried to force it on him. How disrespectful.

[–] Humanbiscuit@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely read the article for context. It does not reflect well on Apple at all. I know that’s probably unsurprising and not even close to the worst thing we have read about them, but it’s just another disappointing example. What an awful lack of options we consumers have in trying to choose products and services from ethical sources. Also, excellent speech by De Niro.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Well, the first trillion dollar-valued company superpower whom outclasses the rest in terms of capital gains several times over probably isn't the best place to start looking.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 37 points 1 year ago

Only money plz no expression.

  • Art under capitalism
[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When I see people with Apple devices (or driving a Tesla lol), I automatically view them as someone I probably don't like. At this point, Apple devices are social signals that say "I don't care about much as long as my life is comfortable".

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I see people saying dumb shit like this, I feel glad that my parents raised me right because I don’t judge others based on what devices they own.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I see people claiming superiority because they disagree with another's opinion I get sad.

There, we both talked about our feelings.

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[–] linuxdweeb@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SVcross@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The lesson is, never project your value into companies.